Promontory Summit 150 Sesquicentennial last spike Train set?

Yippee I called and wrote Lionel on this in the past, perhaps others asked for this as well. The latest catalog shows the pair of engines and some additional commemorative box cars.

http://www.lionel.com/products...morative-set-1923080

MTH also did the engines but they look huge and out of scale a few different releases. 

https://mthtrains.com/30-1673-...trains.com/20-3238-2

Of note in the Lionel Catalog is the mention; "But wait, there's more! Look for additional special product, including finely crafted brass scale models of #119 and Jupiter. to be formally announced this May!"

Humm that sounds exciting, but I was hoping that they might have released all the sets before the anniversary takes place this year!

Would you buy the advertised General set or prefer to wait for some expensive Brass engines? Will be interesting to see what they are thinking of offering. But will have to order something? and perhaps in the meantime still paint up those scale engines I posted pictures of in the above post.

"I guess it all boils down to how much you would be willing to pay for a set.  On the low end, a Lionel conventional-only set would run $300-$400, and on the high end, a set done by SMR would be in the $3500 range.  A set of MTH RailKing 4-4-0's would probably be in the $700 range."

You can forget about SMR doing anything. They are defunct. Lionel and MTH Generals are way oversized for scale. The engine in the Lionel Lincoln funeral train set was about the correct size for the scale, but I think that those Lionel historic pieces are a thing of the past. 

Thinking about ordering the set of two General-style locos in the current catalog. But really hoping to get some word from Lionel that they will be doing some add-on rolling stock for these.

Lionel?

I am going to wait to see what these finely crafted brass models look like.  I have been wanting a scale General for so long, but Lionel has never made them except for the Lincoln funeral train, but that was not Legacy.  I would settle for the Lionchief set if nothing else, but a scale set would be my choice.

A pair of these in scale detail going along with the anniversary would be awesome.

And then maybe in a second catalog a set of cars to car with them.

kj356 posted:

Yippee I called and wrote Lionel on this in the past, perhaps others asked for this as well. The latest catalog shows the pair of engines and some additional commemorative box cars.

http://www.lionel.com/products...morative-set-1923080

MTH also did the engines but they look huge and out of scale a few different releases. 

https://mthtrains.com/30-1673-...trains.com/20-3238-2

Of note in the Lionel Catalog is the mention; "But wait, there's more! Look for additional special product, including finely crafted brass scale models of #119 and Jupiter. to be formally announced this May!"

Humm that sounds exciting, but I was hoping that they might have released all the sets before the anniversary takes place this year!

Would you buy the advertised General set or prefer to wait for some expensive Brass engines? Will be interesting to see what they are thinking of offering. But will have to order something? and perhaps in the meantime still paint up those scale engines I posted pictures of in the above post.

 

 

 

I am waiting to see what these Brass models will look like.  This set is Lionechief, of which they will probably make plenty.  It is not a preorder set.

It needs to be kept in mind that, while the General was a 4-4-0, not all 4-4-0s are Generals.  It should also be kept in mind that the General itself looked very little like the Lionel model during its moment of fame (it looks a lot like that NOW, but there is little left of the original engine), and, as some have noted, the model is oversized.

The AHM/Rivarossi Genoa/Reno kits are closer to the Jupiter and the 119, but both are still more modern.

There is nothing wrong with Lionel commemorating the anniversary with a pair of specially decorated General derivatives, of course!  Most people--even many train people--would have no idea of the difference, and fewer would care.  And that's OK!

But a nice pair of more accurate engines (but not high-end brass), tooled up for wider sales than SMR's might be possible for something less than SMR's nose-bleed prices, as they could be exploited for many other uses:  Old West, Civil War, Logging/Mining, The Wild, Wild West:  lots of possibilities out there for amortizing the tooling costs.  They could even take a leaf from Bachmann's book and create interchangeable chassis--4-4-0 & 2-6-0--on the same superstructure, doubling the mileage (as it were).  There is some demand for 19th century trains that has not yet been satisfied.  

I wan two, please:  one of each wheel arrangement.

And, for Casey's sake! make them available in Command AND Conventional.

I'm definitely interested in the brass versions of Jupiter and 119, something I have been waiting for a long time! If those are successful Lionel (or any other manufacturer for that matter)  make more accurate renditions of 19th century locomotives! While they have made many kinds, most are either oversized or use existing tooling which is ok, but could be better. Can't wait to hear more about these locos! 

Off topic from the golden spike trains but since talking about accurate 4-4-0s, it would be nice if Atlas ever wanted to make new O gauge locos, they could scale up their nicely proportioned N scale 4-4-0 to O gauge, and offer it in a variety of paint schemes plus different styles (dome, stack, headlight styles) 

Looking forward to the Lionel official announcement shortly but wish the scale engines had been available by today the anniversary. 

I painted up my own O scale set of engines 2 rail operational with the old Rivarossi here they are with photos of the real ones.

Bachmann also has a set in HO of the commemorative set available.

Click on the top photo for a larger view then can scroll through all the photo's in a larger view.

That's good work, KJ356. 

Just wondering if some of you have been getting and running your scale Lionel engines yet? Any photos. Glad I was able to get my mock ups done in time for the ceremony last year.