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Background:

Trains have always been important in my family. Several generations on my mom's side worked on the railroad, primarily in upstate New York. Several were engineers, my maternal grandfather was first a fireman, then an instructor & accident investigator. In our cross-country camping trips, we rode the Durango & Silverton, Cumbers & Toltec, & Georgetown Loop narrow gauge railroads. Growing up, my Dad set up his well-cared-for & somewhat extensive American Flyer & Plasticville collection that dated to the early-mid '50s every Christmas around the tree. As we grew a little older, my twin brother & I helped more with the building of the Christmas layouts. We always dreamed of building a permanent set-up, but the house, though not small, lacked an appropriate space. When we were in elementary school, my parents bought my twin brother & I a K-Line O-27 set and some basic extras, such as switches, with the thought that eventually we could split it up in our own separate sets. For several years we added cars & accessories.

 

After several years, our focus went elsewhere & we stopped expanding our sets. Though we may have set them up on occasion, we used them less. When we left home, the sets stayed at our parents'. When my older sister's kid grew old enough, we would sometimes pull them out for him when we were all at my parents', which he loved.

 

Fastforward to 2015:

Now I am the father myself, of a boy who just turned one. This past summer, I started to think about finally bringing my half of our O-27 set-up home, & setting it up around the our Christmas tree. At Thanksgiving, I pulled out our set and before packing up my half, my twin brother and I built a couple of carpet layouts & ran them over the holiday. I realized that my half--including two of the four switches & a 90-degree crossing--would need some expansion to be able to create more interesting carpet layouts. Also, my GN MP-15 would only run in reverse--the reverse switch did nothing. For a long time I had always wanted another engine in addition to a yard switcher. I had visited Charles Ro shortly before the Thanksgiving holiday, & had my eye on the Great Northern Williams GP-9 that was in one of the Williams catalogs they had. It would complement my primarily GN set-up. Before the end of the holiday, I went online & purchased one (It was from the 2012 WBB line & Charles Ro didn't have one). Between Thanksgiving & Christmas, I picked up a couple of used cars, some new track, & much to my delight, a used Great Northern Hudson Jr. My birthday & Christmas hauls included a WBB transformer, couple more cars, & another pair of switches.

Excited to be back playing with trains, I didn't want to put them away when Christmastide drew to a close. Our house is modest in size & we didn't seem to have the space for a permanent layout. I figured that I could have a temporary carpet layout in a multipurpose room that after the birth of my son had been used mostly for storage. Among other things, it has a convertible couch that hasn't seen much use. Shortly after New Year's, I had a eureka! moment: put a board on top of the couch. The layout could be semipermanent, but if we ever wanted to use the couch--most likely as a spare bed for guests--I could either flip the board on its side & put it behind the coach, or move it to another basement room temporarily.

The next weekend, I picked up a 74"x38" 3/4"-thick sheet of OSB particle board. The dimensions matched the footprint of the couch. Using 2"x4s" that I had at home, I built an I frame on underside, the top and bottom of the I rest on the arms of the couch. It is perhaps surprisingly stable & sturdy. I layed down some track & decided to screw it down, so that if I had to move the layout, I wouldn't have to take everything apart. One thing led to another & I ended up stapling down the wiring & the layout became more permanent & less semi.

Here's how it ended up:

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Of course, soon I started to dream about developing it a little further. I wanted it to be pretty simple, but thought that some kind of basic scenery, such as painting the OSB or putting down carpet would be the longterm goal. While I admire the highly detailed & elaborate scenery that many of you do, I wanted to keep my layout portable and don't see myself as the kind of person suited for creating intricately detailed scenery.

 

This week I decide that now was as good a time as ever to pull up the layout, put down carpet, & rebuild it. Yesterday, I went to work. First I drilled holes to run the wiring through. Then I pulled everything. Off then to pick up some indoor/outdoor carpet. One of the world's great hardware stores is nearby, but they don't have the type of carpet that I was looking for, so I went to the local Home Depot, whose selection turned out to be disappointing. Standing in the carpet aisle, I went to this website & searched this forum, which I discovered around Thanksgiving. I saw learned that some people used felt, and even that Joanne's Fabrics is a source. Off it was to Joanne's. Success!

 

In the late afternoon, I laid the felt. Next, the track was reassembled & screwed down. Then I wired everything, including soldering the five points of power to directly to the track, instead of using lock-ons. This morning, I put on the finishing touches, reinstalling the plexiglass guards (to guard against my son's & nephews' hands), & screw in place the handful of road signs. Here is the finished product:

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It is simple, but I am quite proud of & pleased with my efforts. I am also thankful for the OGR forums. I've incorporated several tips & learned a lot, lurking over the last several months. (Among other things, I learned that the problem with my K-Line MP-15 was a fried reverse board, & learned about simply reversing the wiring so that at least it can run forward all of the time until I pick up a new part, either from Brasseur's or from another MP-15 if I can pick up and inexpensive, but working one to scavenge for parts.) Now, I'm thinking that for a longterm goal, I might create a simple NW conifer forest scene, removing the platform, adding some trees, & maybe even a handful of people (loggers, train workers, outdoors people?).

 

--Matt

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Update:

This past weekend I added a water tower, switch tower (placed so that all the switches are in view), signal bridge, hobo jungle, & passengers waiting for the next train on the platform:

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I'm about to receive a Lionel 3482 Operating Milk Car, so I'll have to find a spot to locate the unloading platform. In the near future I'd like to add several stands of conifers. My goal is to create a rural PNW scene, which sees freight traffic & Budd RDC traffic, but one that is not too cluttered & crowded.

 

I am toying with adding a Plasticville coaling tower straddling the spur about where the two boxcars are in the photo above. My question to all of you is, would that be too much? Would it start to make the layout feel crowded? What do you all think? Do you have other suggestions on how to add to the layout with out cluttering it up?

Finally, here's the boy helping me out with some wiring work:

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Hi Matt,

Your layout looks like a lot of fun. You have kept it interesting without undo complication.

You might consider a short run of trestles pieces under that section where the train is parked. Maybe just 2 " or so high in the center. That would add some visual interest without you worrying about the ability of your train to make the grade. Experiment with scrap wood before doing anything permanent.

Regards,

Rich

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Other than converting all of my switches to the K-0265/0266 motor-driven, LED remote switches, my layout has remained largely stagnant for the past two years. About a week ago, for whatever reason, the itch to rebuild, or at least partially rebuild, became too much to bear. 

My goal:

74x38 Layout [11-2017 Final)

The rebuild took the original layout, reconfigured the figure eight, added the connecting straight on the top of the figure eight, moved the milk platform, and added the short inner spur. Much of the scenery had to be moved, the switch controls were removed from within the layout, and the terminal block for the wiring was moved to underneath. I used four custom-cut straights to make everything work.

Between adding new power taps, moving and adding switches, and moving many of the trees, I had to do a significant amount of drilling, which of course, produced sawdust. It was making a real mess of both the felt, the couch underneath, and the floor. That is until I enlisted my son to hold the Shop Vac nozzle next to the drill as I drilled. What a difference! Why didn't I think of that sooner?

Finally, we were back up and running:

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But the wiring underneath was a mess:

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 My helper at work:

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 With the wiring on the underside cleaned up, I installed new plexi-glass fencing on the front of the layout. The strip-molding spacers were needed to prevent the trains from hitting the fencing. I also built and attached a control board for the switch and operating track controllers, and the circuit breakers.

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 Yesterday, I installed two additional uncoupling tracks, one for the short inner spur, and one on the straight in front of the control panel.  Lastly, printed labels were added to spiff it up.

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 While the rebuilt layout is similar to the previous version, it required a surprising number of hours to accomplish, even as humble as it is. The end result is more aesthetically pleasing, allows for more switching, more route variation, and is much more interesting to run on.

The final product:

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Soon I will be relinquishing my membership to the forum. Nothing sinister or bad is happening, merely forum policy requires that members provide a valid address, which they are well within their rights to do. In this day and age of hacking and identity theft, I don't feel comfortable sharing that information, so I will resort to "lurking"—less creepily put—reading, but not contributing. I have enjoyed my time here, and appreciated everyone's comments and input. There is an impressive body of knowledge in the membership and I have learned a lot. So thank you to those who run and support this forum, and to those who share your love for and wisdom and knowledge of this great hobby.

—Matt

I used to stop to talk to to all the mall girls and fill out applications for for all kindz of stuff .... 1313 Mockingbird Lane I'm sometimes Robert Plant, or Jimmy Page on Saturdays. I've been Casey Jones and John Henry, Been Franklin and More. 903-5768.. Jenny may answer; ask for Uncle Bob ....313 ! 😎 We're you confronted? Moved? Just battening down the hatches now? I mean you aren't exactly new anymore. Sad to hear it for any reason. But I've been there too. Took some breaks and never let anything beat me down 100%. Your as at much risk at the DMV ...unless maybe you do business on the same computer/device as social hours . Your name and address is public record in lots of ways, that's not the issue that should concern you. It's like dropping the phone so some freak didn't pick you out of a phone book. If your gonna do business online in any way, use a different device, different net accounts, etc... And don't cross access, sync, or link the 2; 1 business and 1 social device, never veer. If you haven't there is nothing to phish for that couldn't be found on any decent demographics, or mailing list anyhow. ..all that said, if you don't chime back in right away ... "we'll keep a light on"

Matt, while I understand your concern, you are more likely to run into to difficulties from a host of other on-line activities, such as social media membership and on-line banking and shopping. Nothing is impossible of course, but it does seem whenever I hear something in the news about hacking, it mostly seems to concern major banking, on-line payments and social media like Facebook.

I enjoyed this post about your layout you've built with your son, especially in this day and age where many dad's build a layout for themselves and then allow their son to run "his" trains on "dad's layout," rather than dad truly building a layout for his son and then deriving his enjoyment from that.

I strongly suspect there are far more traditional/027 operators out there then this forum would convey, so I am always sorry to see one go. True, most of the current new product is scale, but that's not considering that most of this new product is made in remarkably small runs, many times not even 100 pieces. Whereas the traditional trains of the past were made in runs of thousands and there are millions of them out there. It's just not the "new" thing the way the scale items are.

Well, whatever you do, it is your decision. I personally try not to live in fear or the worse case scenario. It's impossible to do away with all risks unless you live in a cave isolated. All you can do is try to minimalize the potential of things going wrong. Even crossing the street today is not without risks, especially with the rise in driving distractions, like texting.

To me, the benefits of the forum outweigh the risks. And though I don't post as much, that's more due to the proliferation of "scale" posting on the traditional 027 forum than any other reason or concern.

 

 

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