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Here's a quick video I just shot of the Lionel 115th Anniversary Silver Berk running at the NJ Hi-Railers .  Boy, is it shiny and man does it smoke (for a Lionel.)

 

Hopefully, I'll have a better one up soon.

 

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yup, it came with gloves! And wrapped in what looks like wax paper. There are some scratches on the finish (on the whistle dome and especially the tender between the rivets.  It looks like its at the height of the Styrofoam packing.)  A little disappointing but you really need to look to find them.  

 

The whistle sounds great.  I don't know why I didn't blow it.  I think it's the 765 Berk whistle.  The whistle steam is also very strong. 

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Originally Posted by Chris Lord:

 The whistle sounds great.  I don't know why I didn't blow it.  I think it's the 765 Berk whistle.  The whistle steam is also very strong. 

FINALLY...a video that doesn't have someone laying on the whistle like they never heard a whistle before!!! The sound of that loco is out of this world! Thanks for NOT blowing the whistle!!!

Originally Posted by mike.caruso:
Nice!  How many 56 Caddies had to give their lives for all that chrome?? 

Look forward to seeing in person...maybe pulling 125 "Pacemaker" boxcars??!!

Lol.That would look pretty cool! 

 

Amazingly, I have two extras. Maybe some dealers didn't take theirs. Any offers? 

 

Steve........ 

 

Amazingly, I have two extras. Maybe some dealers didn't take theirs. Any offers? 

 

Steve........ 

 
 
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Agree with DorfJ2, there is something for everyone. Tastes are different. The new Visonline GG1 was / is getting hammered but for those folks that DON'T have any GG!'s from any manufacturer, this maybe their first purchase of one. I for one, have a very old beat up one that I picked up 2nd hand. Works nicely, but not modern. I may buy it only because I don't have one. No, it is not a JCL version, MTH, or one from another manufacturer, but if I like is I will buy it regardless of what the OGR forum members say.

 

Chris has a nice engine, one of 113 that made it to the market. He runs what he buys. He's an operator, it wont sit on a shelf. Enjoy the engine, you might never see one in operation. 

Originally Posted by kennyb:

... Forgive me for asking,but how much was the MSRP on this?I'm guessing $1,500.00+  I am right? ...

MSRP was $1999.99, and that's what most dealers were also advertising as their selling price.  I noticed one dealer here is already playing games with their pricing at $2,500.   No thanks... if I didn't pre-order one at $2K, I ain't springing for it now for an extra $500 -- especially when some other dealers aren't moving inventory at their original asking price.

 

This is a sweet-looking locomotive though.  Two ways Lionel could have made it better...  

 

  • Lose the 115th Anniversary logo and just have the tender read "Lionel Lines" like the 100th Anniversary Gold Hudson.  Would have been much more timeless AND classic that way.  While I could live with the circle-L logo from post-war days, I detest the Lionel lettering font from MPC days.  Combining the two was a graphics design blunder in spades.  Leave the anniversary stuff for the catalog and box -- not the product itself. 
  • Offer matching heavyweight passenger cars.  Still a possibility, but I doubt they'll do it.

 

David

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Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:
Originally Posted by kennyb:

... Forgive me for asking,but how much was the MSRP on this?I'm guessing $1,500.00+  I am right? ...

MSRP was $1999.99, and that's what most dealers were also advertising as their selling price.  I noticed one dealer here is already playing games with their pricing at $2,500.   No thanks... if I didn't pre-order one at $2K, I ain't springing for it now for an extra $500 -- especially when some other dealers aren't moving inventory at their original asking price.

 

This is a sweet-looking locomotive though.  Two ways Lionel could have made it better...  

 

  • Lose the 115th Anniversary logo and just have the tender read "Lionel Lines" like the 100th Anniversary Gold Hudson.  Would have been much more timeless AND classic that way.  While I could live with the circle-L logo from post-war days, I detest the Lionel lettering font from MPC days.  Combining the two was a graphics design blunder in spades.  Leave the anniversary stuff for the catalog and box -- not the product itself. 
  • Offer matching heavyweight passenger cars.  Still a possibility, but I doubt they'll do it.

 

David

Yup.  MSRP only.  No "Early Buy" program.  I ordered it as soon as it was announced, before pricing was available.  I was disappointed when I was invoiced that it was full MSRP but "ya pays ya money and takes ya chances"

 

I agree with the logo but what are you going to do?

 

As for what to run it with I'm at a loss.  I'm thinking of trying it with the Lionel Century Club Empire State Express cars.  I don't think we'll see anything matching. They've only released two cars types for the Gold Berk and that's been disappointing.   

 

As for liking it or not.  To each their own.  I have many engines that are very prototypical and a bunch of gold and now silver ones.   I enjoy running them, especially at our shows, where the kids just love them.  

 

For the ultimate in ugly lash-ups I'm thinking of running the 115th, 1225 PE Berk, 765 Berk and Gold Berk together. 

 

Bottom Line -- Everyone should just remember 2 words......."Toy Trains"

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I'm not sure what they are thinking while there are still other options out there to purchase them at the original price.  I imagine once the supply is gone then the demand factor will kick in.  Perhaps that's what they are banking on.
 
Not selling them now by raising the price and then when they're all scarce, the $2500 price tag doesn't look that bad to someone that wants one bad enough.  You think you'd just put them in the store room for a while and then release them at the higher "collectors" premium price.
 
Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:

MSRP was $1999.99, and that's what most dealers were also advertising as their selling price.  I noticed one dealer here is already playing games with their pricing at $2,500.   No thanks... if I didn't pre-order one at $2K, I ain't springing for it now for an extra $500 -- especially when some other dealers aren't moving inventory at their original asking price.

 

David

 

Originally Posted by ed h:

Definitely a sharp looking locomotive.

 

Although traditional sized, the 2015 Toy Fair and 2015 Dealer Appreciation boxcars would look great behind this locomotive.

  

2015_Dealer_App

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Ed, when did that 2015 Dealer Appreciation boxcar come out???  Do you have a 6-dash SKU for it?  Inquiring minds would like to know.  I did a quick search of the Charles Ro website, but nothing came up (yet).

 

Dang... seems everytime I glance at the forum these days, there's something interesting to buy!!!    I'm not a big fan of that 115th Anniversary logo for sure, but I've been collecting these dealer appreciation cars since the series started.  So I just may need to bite the bullet on this one.  I'll just look to the left-hand side of the boxcar. 

 

David

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Just noticed a bunch of the 2015 Dealer Appreciation Cars on eBay... SKU is 6-81497.  Found one reasonably priced at $50.  The rest are the usual game-playing with premium prices in the $80-$100 range. 

 

These cars usually sell for $50 or so.  Surprised we haven't heard more about them on the forum yet... or perhaps I just missed it. 

 

David

Originally Posted by MartyE:
...  I imagine once the supply is gone then the demand factor will kick in.  ...

 

That's EXACTLY what they're thinking, Marty.  They're willing to sit it out hoping the lesser expensive units sell.  And then enthusiasts who "missed out" will play the pricing game in their minds to decide if it's worth being taken advantage of. 

 

Not the nicer side of this hobby for sure, but it's been like that for decades...  some dealers always looking to make a quick profit on the "hot stuff".  The only difference nowadays is that eBay gives every Tom, Dick and Harry the ability to play the same pricing shenanigans.  And true to form, they are.  There's a fellow on eBay now who's "liquidating" a lot of top-end, Lionel Vision Line stuff... die-cast ES44's, Hybrid ES44's, Big Boy, etc...  The prices are WAY beyond the stratosphere, but he's consistent... I'll give him that.  Not one price in the entire lot I'd consider "reasonable".  Highest asking prices I've seen for these kinds of items -- even higher than one or two of the notable "flippers" on the forum here.    Maybe he doesn't really want to sell the stuff after all!!! 

 

David  

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Rocky Mountaineer - The 2015 Dealer Appreciation cars just recently shipped, as you found by searching e*ay.  The 2015 Toy Fair boxcar (6-82940) has been out for quite some time but with only 115 made, won't be an easy one to find.   The Toy Fair cars are labeled on the bottom, Number X of 115. The 2015 Toy Fair car was on display at the Toy fair back in February, not sure how exactly they were allocated.

Originally Posted by ed h:

...  The 2015 Toy Fair boxcar (6-82940) has been out for quite some time but with only 115 made, won't be an easy one to find.   ...

Ed, I was happy to grab the Dealer Appreciation car at the "normal" going-price, and it's pretty much the same car as the 2015 Toy Fair boxcar.  I'm surprised Lionel made the graphics pretty much duplicates of each other -- aside from the words "Toy Fair 2015" replaced by "Lionel Dealers etc...".

 

Last year Charlie Ro advertised the 2014 Dealer Appreciation car prior to its release and was taking orders for it, which was a bit of a first for these cars if I recall correctly.  Doesn't seem to be that way this year though... at least not yet.  It's never really clear how Lionel distributes these, or if any one dealer will get a large volume of them to sell.  I was under the impression most "mom-and-pop" shops only get ONE.

 

The only Toy Fair car I own is the Polar Express from 2005, and I managed to grab that at a reasonable price (compared to what I see sellers asking for it now).  I sometimes run it with a few other P/E boxcars as head-end cars with my scale P/E passenger train.

 

David

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