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If you had an all sleeping car train, could you model a prototypical train with three 8-1-2s behind the tender, two dining cars coupled kitchen end to kitchen end followed by three 12-1s?  The only disadvantage I see would be the kitchen provision doors would be on opposite sides.  John in Lansing, ILL.

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rattler21 posted:

If you had an all sleeping car train, could you model a prototypical train with three 8-1-2s behind the tender, two dining cars coupled kitchen end to kitchen end followed by three 12-1s?  The only disadvantage I see would be the kitchen provision doors would be on opposite sides.  John in Lansing, ILL.

Recall reading about some trains with two diners, maybe in one of the Dubin books?

Think of all Pullman trains like the Century and Broadway for example 16 to 19 cars on average, any more second section necessary.  these trains in early life had one diner later twin unit diners.  On these trains their are usually a couple of different small kitchen buffets/bars in other cars making food service available in multiple locations.

It is your railroad you can do as you like. Always the best option.

BobbyD posted:
rattler21 posted:

If you had an all sleeping car train, could you model a prototypical train with three 8-1-2s behind the tender, two dining cars coupled kitchen end to kitchen end followed by three 12-1s?  The only disadvantage I see would be the kitchen provision doors would be on opposite sides.  John in Lansing, ILL.

Recall reading about some trains with two diners, maybe in one of the Dubin books?

Norton posted:

Hopefully a Santa Fe guy will confirm but I believe in 1958 when the Super Chief and El Capitan ran as a combined train they had two diners. One for the Super Chief passengers and the other for the coach (El Capitan) passengers.

 

Pete

That is true. However, the el-cap was hi-level and SC was standard height so they were never run next to each other.

Tom Taipalus posted:
Norton posted:

Hopefully a Santa Fe guy will confirm but I believe in 1958 when the Super Chief and El Capitan ran as a combined train they had two diners. One for the Super Chief passengers and the other for the coach (El Capitan) passengers.

 

Pete

That is true. However, the el-cap was hi-level and SC was standard height so they were never run next to each other.

The El Cap diner was for the coach passenger, and the regular diner was for the sleepers.  This was used on Amtrak 3/4 after it took over.

"By Streamliner New York to Florida" by Joseph M. Welsh, page 101, ACL FLORIDA SPECIAL:

6-3 sleeper

12-1 sleeper

12-1 sleeper

12-1 sleeper

10-1-2 sleeper

10-1-2 sleeper

3-1 lounge

8-1-3 sleeper

10-2 sleeper

8-1-2 sleeper

10-1-2 sleeper

diner - from Washington to Miami

diner - from Jacksonville to Tampa

diner - from Jacksonville to St. Petersburg

There are numerous other consists mentioned in the book with more than 1 diner.

 

And now for some luxury travel,

Sampled on March 17, 1938 on the Westbound train #25 leaving NYC,                                               “the 20th Century Limited″:

Class T3A Electric Locomotive
MP Postal Car: NYC #4857
CS Baggage Club: NYC Van Twiller
PS Sleeper 8 section, 1 drawing,, 2 compartment: Centacorra
PS Sleeper 6 section, 6 double bedroom: Poplar Park
PS Sleeper 6 section, 6 double bedroom: Poplar Highlands
PS Sleeper 6 compartment, 3 drawing room: Glen Anna

DA Dining Room: #654

DA Dining Room: #655

PS Sleeper 6 section, 6  double bedroom: Poplar Grove
PS Sleeper 13 double Bedroom: Macomb House
PS Sleeper 13 double bedroom: Pringle House
PSO Sleeper-Buffet-Lounge-Observation: Elkart Valley
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Woodshire Bill posted:

And now for some luxury travel,

Sampled on March 17, 1938 on the Westbound train #25 leaving NYC,                                               “the 20th Century Limited″:

Class T3A Electric Locomotive
MP Postal Car: NYC #4857
CS Baggage Club: NYC Van Twiller
PS Sleeper 8 section, 1 drawing,, 2 compartment: Centacorra
PS Sleeper 6 section, 6 double bedroom: Poplar Park
PS Sleeper 6 section, 6 double bedroom: Poplar Highlands
PS Sleeper 6 compartment, 3 drawing room: Glen Anna

DA Dining Room: #654

DA Dining Room: #655

PS Sleeper 6 section, 6  double bedroom: Poplar Grove
PS Sleeper 13 double Bedroom: Macomb House
PS Sleeper 13 double bedroom: Pringle House
PSO Sleeper-Buffet-Lounge-Observation: Elkart Valley

Today our luxury train:

GGD REA express reefer

GGD undecorated baggage car

3rd Rail Pullman 12-1 Alazon

GGD Santa Fe 12-1 St. Alexis

Lionel Jonathon

3rd Rail Pullman dining car #3

GGD Santa Fe dining car #1460

3rd Rail Pullman 8-1-2 Fairmont Park

Williams observation car Lake Louise

 

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