Sakai, was this affiliated with Lionel in any way or just a manufacturer of 027 / 0 gauge track and switches.
I know Lionel had the 2029 engine come from Japan in the 1960's.
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Sakai (Seki) made track, trains, signals, accessories, and a whole bunch of other tinplate toys, stating before WW2 and continuing well afterward.
I wrote an article about their line of trackside signals for the TCA Quarterly a number of years ago.
Sakai (Seki) made track, trains, signals, accessories, and a whole bunch of other tinplate toys, stating before WW2 and continuing well afterward.
I wrote an article about their line of trackside signals for the TCA Quarterly a number of years ago.
My first train sets were Sakai. When I was about 3 my father bought 2 sets, which, 57 years later, I still have. Here are 2 EB class Japanese locos.
They still run as good as new. I still collect a few pieces as they come along, if they are in reasonable order.
There is a Seki/Sakai group on Yahoo which is quite active. As far as I'm aware, they were called Seki before WW2 and Sakai post war.
They still run as good as new. I still collect a few pieces as they come along, if they are in reasonable order.
There is a Seki/Sakai group on Yahoo which is quite active. As far as I'm aware, they were called Seki before WW2 and Sakai post war.
There were a couple of articles written about Sakai switches in OGR many years ago. We had a lot of fun running a contest giving away a pair of "rare and collectible" Sakai switches.
Now that I have seen Dave Allen's two electrics in this thread, looks like Sakai products deserve a more serious look for lovers of tinplate.
Ed Boyle
Now that I have seen Dave Allen's two electrics in this thread, looks like Sakai products deserve a more serious look for lovers of tinplate.
Ed Boyle
Yes Ed, they made many variations. My locos pictured above came with 3 passenger cars in one set and a freight set, which had only an oil tanker and caboose. I also have a die cast steamer. They pop up on eBay and at club auctions fairly regularly, and don't bring much money, so people wanting to get into tinplate collecting, this is an interesting and affordable segment.
Years ago a friends father gave me the O gauge train set he bought while stationed in Japan, probably the 1950's. It is Japanese made with no manufacturer name that I can find anywhere. The steam engine is a 2-6-2, number 301. The tender, box car (in NYC red over grey colors) is numbered 1744520, the grey gondola is numbered 1530000, the caboose is numbered 201570, all are lettered "HUDSON & PACIFIC" except the yellow "Pegasus" tank car which is numbered 752. It is all metal with stamped steel knuckle uncoupling couplers.
Anybody have any idea who made this set?
Anybody have any idea who made this set?
quote:There is a Seki/Sakai group on Yahoo
Did you see the link I posted?
quote:all are lettered "HUDSON & PACIFIC"
Sometimes, they got their Japlish confused, and lettered them "Hutton & Pacific."
Brian, that is a Sakai set,quote:Originally posted by Nairb Rekab:
Years ago a friends father gave me the O gauge train set he bought while stationed in Japan, probably the 1950's. It is Japanese made with no manufacturer name that I can find anywhere. The steam engine is a 2-6-2, number 301. The tender, box car (in NYC red over grey colors) is numbered 1744520, the grey gondola is numbered 1530000, the caboose is numbered 201570, all are lettered "HUDSON & PACIFIC" except the yellow "Pegasus" tank car which is numbered 752. It is all metal with stamped steel knuckle uncoupling couplers.
Anybody have any idea who made this set?
I also have these.
I always thought Sakai was an Iron Chef?
Jerry
Jerry
quote:Originally posted by Dave Allen:Brian, that is a Sakai set,quote:Originally posted by Nairb Rekab:
Years ago a friends father gave me the O gauge train set he bought while stationed in Japan, probably the 1950's. It is Japanese made with no manufacturer name that I can find anywhere. The steam engine is a 2-6-2, number 301. The tender, box car (in NYC red over grey colors) is numbered 1744520, the grey gondola is numbered 1530000, the caboose is numbered 201570, all are lettered "HUDSON & PACIFIC" except the yellow "Pegasus" tank car which is numbered 752. It is all metal with stamped steel knuckle uncoupling couplers.
Anybody have any idea who made this set?
I also have these.
Thanks Dave, any idea when they were produced?
Brian, they were made mid-50's.
Our club was just given a donation today of an engine( 2-6-0), tender and double door box car and the set box from the original owner. I will try to photograph the units tomorrow.
I have heard the 2-6-2 set with the NYC colored boxcar, the Pegasus tanker, etc.
called "Japanese Marx" for years and have a set of those, as they seem very common,
however I have never before seen any of the others posted above, although I had long
heard there were passenger cars and other items. Another Sakai item I see often,
frequently in the original boxes, are switches.
Anyone know if they made these. I've been converting them with K-line guts for a long time. Have a number of them still waiting for conversation. Don
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There are a few variations to the "301" steam freight set. The ealiest sets were marked Hutton & Pacific. They still did not have a good grasp of English yet. The mistake was caught quickly and changed to Hudson Pacific. Other than name, they were alike with the stamped steel couplers. The Hutton & Pacific is pretty desirable to the Sakai collector, but hard to find. A third version that I am aware of is the same as the second version, except for die cast trucks, couplers and wheels. This one also seems to be very hard to come by.
Utilizing the same freight cars, there were two F type diesel sets, one Hudson & Pacific and the other Canadian Pacific. The diesels also seldom show up. I am still searching for the Hudson & Pacific diesel. Besides the above sets, I found a 301 loco & 302 tender in individual boxes. I have never seen another one.
Also, some interesting H0 tinplate.
Steve
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These two are on E-bay now. Don
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Here are some photos of the set that was donated to our club.
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Don, while I am no Sakai expert, and have probabley ignored some of it I should not
have, not knowing what it was, I would first guess those electric outline locos are
Ken Kidder, and second guess "International", this last of which I have a lot of O
scale brass, unpainted cars. That is assuming those are brass in your photo.
Yeah, me too. I guess model trains are his hobby when he's not making trout ice cream!
Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:
I always thought Sakai was an Iron Chef?
Jerry
Jerry
DMASSO : Is that the bridge over the Kwai river your Sakai engine is running over?
I have one I picked up that had been painted in similar colors to the Lionel Canadian Pacific's, it runs well, but noisy. The other one in original Sakai colors does not run. Have not tried working on it yet.
Steve
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World English Dictionary
| sakai (ˈsakaɪ) | |
| — n | |
| 1. | a Malaysian aborigine |
| 2. | a wild or uncouth person |
| [from Malay] | |
Tough name for a chef, methinks.
I think the steel-framed 10-speed bike I bought while I was in college and still have in the basement has a sticker on that says "Sakai". I bought two used Trek moutain bikes but I still don't like they way the ride.
Hi, These were made by Kumata (KTM). They also made them using steel tinplate as a body material. I have the body of one of the Japanese 1-B-B-1 boxcab electrics. It is made from tinplate.
Phil Randall, TX
Originally Posted by scale rail:
Anyone know if they made these. I've been converting them with K-line guts for a long time. Have a number of them still waiting for conversation. Don
This A48000 just arrived this morning from Australia. Someday it will get repainted a medium blue like it should be, but for now I am happy just to own one that has not rotted to pieces.
Steve
My post is not particularly related to what's going on here, but who knows. I recently purchased a BB electric box cab on E bay with CMStP markings. It's two rail O gauge, motor stamped with "8 volts" (!), and just a sticker inside "1430". I bought it primarily for the spoked drivers and hear set. My plan is to build a new body for it as a PRR AA1, first PRR ELECTRIC. However, before I demolish this thing, I just wondered what the history behind it might be. Any takers ?
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