I heard that Lionel's new volume 2 catalog is set for August 31st. Are there any updates or predictions on what products might be in it?
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Legacy SD45s
Rumor has it some new accessories.
What about those Postwar streamliner green pass cars that were mentioned in 2016 Sig ?
Lionel does not look kindly upon leaks. Just ask some of the dealers here that jumped the gun the last few years. I doubt those that know will talk.
Will everything in that cat be out before UP 4014 is on the road?
How about a NYC steamer named after a river...
Ok money is on:
a) NYC niagara
b) Russian decapod
c) F3 Legacy diesels
d) More PS1 sound box cars
e) More passenger car releases
I always get excited when it's time for the New Lionel Catalog. Although it gets released on Line first, there simply is nothing better than sitting in the Lazy Boy and looking Page by Page at All the Offers, Pictures, Ideas, Engines, Cars, Accessories, and New Goods. Yes, I am still a Little Boy at Heart....Wow! Great Question, Happy Railroading...
From a previous posting on this same subject, a fellow forum member came across a parts listing for a Lionchief Pearl Harbor set. I hope that part listing is correct.
MartyE posted:Lionel does not look kindly upon leaks. ...
Good point, Marty. Lionel has enough challenges providing accurate information about ALREADY-ANNOUNCED products, so it's quite likely not too many Lionel folks know anything about UNANNOUNCED products! 
David
J Daddy posted:Ok money is on:
a) NYC niagara
b) Russian decapod
c) F3 Legacy diesels
d) More PS1 sound box cars
e) More passenger car releases
I agree! I think it's time for some Southern F-3s w/ Legacy.
MartyE posted:Lionel does not look kindly upon leaks. Just ask some of the dealers here that jumped the gun the last few years. I doubt those that know will talk.
Yes. Some dealers apparently posted pricing and pictures of products before the catalog came out!
It always seems to work that by the time I acquire a certain something I have been looking for ... for a very long time... Lionel re-releases it.
Let's see - this year I finally found some Rock Island E6's, Burlington E5's. Some Union Pacific F3's, and a Die cast UP turbine.
I am betting the UP F3's will be re-issued... And with my luck some Vision Line E6's will be produced...
Rocky Mountaineer posted:MartyE posted:Lionel does not look kindly upon leaks. ...
Good point, Marty. Lionel has enough challenges providing accurate information about ALREADY-ANNOUNCED products, so it's quite likely not too many Lionel folks know anything about UNANNOUNCED products!
David
David you need to apply for the CEO job. Maybe get Mike Reagan kicked out and take over for him. I'm sure you'll have all their woes fixed in an hour after you show up. Seriously I think you could turn that place around.
My heart wants to bet on a revised and improved Acela. My head says "Sorry, not this time."
Steven J. Serenska
Let's hope there's a Southern Mikado with TVRM Consists, N&W A Class Non Lionmaster, & Auxiliary Tenders.
Bullet proof products for the pices we are paying for them!
LionChief Plus #221 with NYC painted 2400 series passenger cars! (I can dream...)
Jon 
I'm betting more SD40's. High hood anyone?
Dominic Posted:
"Bullet proof products for the pieces we are paying for them!"
NASA does not even get bullet proof for the price they pay, what makes you think we can get it for the price we pay?
Right now, NASA is working on taking 3D printers into space for, wait for it... fixing the things that break or ware out.
Anybody attending the IMTS show in Chicago next month will get an eye full of really great products (and ideas) as to where 3D Printing is going. Think way more the just plastic!
Charlie
MartyE posted:Rocky Mountaineer posted:MartyE posted:Lionel does not look kindly upon leaks. ...
Good point, Marty. Lionel has enough challenges providing accurate information about ALREADY-ANNOUNCED products, so it's quite likely not too many Lionel folks know anything about UNANNOUNCED products!
David
David you need to apply for the CEO job. Maybe get Mike Reagan kicked out and take over for him. I'm sure you'll have all their woes fixed in an hour after you show up. Seriously I think you could turn that place around.
Marty, Mike Reagan isn't the problem (as I'm sure you know). He's a sharp cookie. But in general, ya gotta admit we don't always get the most accurate information when asking Lionel questions about products in the catalog. Accurate communication is not the company's strong suit. Sometimes we can reach somebody who actually knows what's going on for an acccurate answer, and other times we need to wait for a product's arrival here in the States to see what's been manufactured before getting the real answer. 
Probably would take more than an hour to fix though. Perhaps a day or two at the most! 
David
Rocky Mountaineer posted:Marty, Mike Reagan isn't the problem (as I'm sure you know). He's a sharp cookie. But in general, ya gotta admit we don't always get the most accurate information when asking Lionel questions about products in the catalog. Accurate communication is not the company's strong suit. Sometimes we can reach somebody who actually knows what's going on for an acccurate answer, and other times we need to wait for a product's arrival here in the States to see what's been manufactured before getting the real answer.
A prime example is the "other road numbers" versions of the UP FEF-3 models that were SUPPOSED to have the Sellers Exhaust Steam Feedwater system, that was SPECIFICALLY spelled out in the catalog. When the models arrived, they were all incorrect and not a single word of explanation.
Probably would take more than an hour to fix though. Perhaps a day or two at the most!
David
Aug 31st it will be up on our site. We can't talk about it before, this helps create excitement too.
A little birdie dropped by. A New York Central birdie. And . . . . . the birdie said he had just flown in over the falls.
"Which falls?" I asked. "Why, Niagara," said the birdie. "Well," said I, "That will be your Legacy, you're a northern birdie."
ed h posted:What about those Postwar streamliner green pass cars that were mentioned in 2016 Sig ?
Bingo! Have been thinking of these off and on since before the summer.
One of the very few times I will place an order within minutes of release without even thinking about it. Do not pass Go! Order placed. May even get a couple of sets.
I would love a New Haven EP-5 with Legacy. It has never been done and they have the old K-Line tooling. It was nice when K line made it, but I missed the boot and now the electronics are to out of date.
ES44AC posted:I'm betting more SD40's. High hood anyone?
Yes please. I'd take N&W, Southern, & NS.
guys im going back to o scale so i hope there is another gold plated steam locomotive like the hudson we had ages ago
Scrapiron Scher posted:A little birdie dropped by. A New York Central birdie. And . . . . . the birdie said he had just flown in over the falls.
"Which falls?" I asked. "Why, Niagara," said the birdie. "Well," said I, "That will be your Legacy, you're a northern birdie."
A Niagara will be a instant buy as long as it comes in around the 1350 area. If it's over 1500 they can keep it.
I want one, however if they increase the prices then I will pass, retired now, got to be careful on amount of train purchases. 
I need to be more Frugal.
ed h posted:Rumor has it some new accessories.
What about those Postwar streamliner green pass cars that were mentioned in 2016 Sig ?
I was just thinking of that this week while running my Great Lakes Express set. Hoping to get a breakup of the Alcos to go with these green cars.
There has to be some information about the Pacific Car & Foundry 57' Mechanical Refrigerator Cars in new Burlington Northern road numbers, colors, and graphic schemes.
Andrew
How about some 0-8-0's with the center headlight variation?
I'd like a bell ringer highway flasher!
Jon : cool:
jojofry posted:...A Niagara will be a instant buy as long as it comes in around the 1350 area. If it's over 1500 they can keep it.
Not too sure it would fall into the "instant buy" category at $1350 (street) for me, which is pretty much where the FEF-3 landed pricewise during pre-orders. Funny how Lionel has already aclimated our thinking that $1350 is an OK price for a non-articulated steam loco, when a couple years ago I paid that for the Legacy Y6b.
No... If a Niagara does get announced and pre-order prices congregate around $1350, I'll pass and just wait until delivery... Then maybe jump at a 15% off sale that seems to be happening about every other month theses days!
It's much more fun to go on a shopping spree when prices are lower, rather than get played by all the BTO pre-order hype surrounding a new catalog's release.
David
Above: "I would love a New Haven EP-5 with Legacy. It has never been done and they have the old K-Line tooling. It was nice when K line made it, but I missed the boot and now the electronics are to out of date."
Not as long as they work...
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But, that's OK; this point of view can create secondary market (or NOS!) bargains for many of us who are not overly interested in swinging whistles and...ah, you know the drill.
A Legacy Niagara would be interesting but I already own the MTH Premier version which in my opinion is fantastic. I think the only difference would be that it would have Whistle Steam unless of course they add the cylinder steam to it. Water scoop effects could be possibility...
Rocky Mountaineer posted:Funny how Lionel has already aclimated our thinking that $1350 is an OK price for a non-articulated steam loco, when a couple years ago I paid that for the Legacy Y6b.
What's even more funny is that, from what I've gathered, there is actually very little difference in the cost to produce a small engine vs. a large engine. They are simply playing to the "bigger is better" mentality of O gauge buyers. There is a perceived increase in value proportional to the increase in size of the model.
The difference for me in buying a Legacy loco is the sound. For me, Lionel sound is incomparable.
Scrappy
leapinlarry posted:I always get excited when it's time for the New Lionel Catalog. Although it gets released on Line first, there simply is nothing better than sitting in the Lazy Boy and looking Page by Page at All the Offers, Pictures, Ideas, Engines, Cars, Accessories, and New Goods. Yes, I am still a Little Boy at Heart....Wow! Great Question, Happy Railroading...
Nothing better than standing in my Hobby Shop, licking my finger flipping the pages. By then, it is the third or fourth time I've "seen" the catalog, but I don't care. It's just so nice to get lost in print like that hanging out with the Hennings Family and some other Hennings Trains regulars.
