Atlas 6924 Non Derail & #57's

Hi, Mark You talk about power routing? What is that. I never held term used before.

Maybe some pictures of what your talking about would be nice.

Also they have some nice Signals now on Intregrated Signals Systems.com

Just a thought !

Thanks, John

Mark...I was told that, yes, you can keep the #57 switch controllers if 6924 switch controllers were added.  This came from a prolific user of Atlas O equipment and also a member of this forum.  I believe I will keep mine and just live with the risk.

John...the term "power routing" is not a new one.  I refer you to this Atlas O PDF for an explanation.

http://www.atlaso.com/pdfs/POW...ING%20USC%20copy.pdf

Thanks SD60.  That is great news.  I'll post some shots.

The schematic is helpful.  Looks like I will be needing to pull up some of the switches to put in the necessary 'insulated rail joiners'.  I'm guessing that is a must o cheap control the derailing option.  Not the first time a hi-railer has had to pull up track!

I also see the 3 Amp Inline fuse that has been discussed in other OGR threads....that is nice insurance for pennies on the dollar.

Mark

Thanks Joh,  I checked out Integrated Signals Systems.com.  Very nice products and looks like they will build to suit if you have a specific idea.

Mark

One of the inherent problems of a stuck button on a momentary circuit is Switch motor burn-out, or burn-up, which ever be the case.  Apparently the #57 when introduced didn't significantly improve the problem that existed with the #56 momentary push buttons. My Atlas switch motors were connected to Older IC Controls ASC (Accessory Switch Controllers) even before the #57 switch controller existed.  On occasion if you held the Through or Out button on the handheld Cab 1 remote a bit too long it would cycle through at least two momentary periods, enough to fry the switch motors.  

One of the primary functions of the 6924 relay board was the time out function that inhibited switch motor burn out.  

It has been some time since all 6924 relay boards were install on my layout, the primary purpose of no switch motor burn outs was achieved.

There are other functions that the 6924 board can do.  Refer to the under-lined Atlas link.  Scan down the page to all the 6924 relay board information.  There are (11) reference directives about the 6924 board and it's uses.

Universal Switch Control Board (Non-Derail Circuit Board) (Item #6924)

Burned switch motor

You would assume the #57 button recall with no replacement is a liability issue.

Hi Mike....thanks for post.  Attached are my switches in the front of the layout.  Looks like the 6924 will bring many benefits.  Looks like I will have to pull up track to put the 'insulated rail clips' in their proper places.  QUESTION:  Best to put insulator clips maybe 1 track piece out to get a more realistic look with signals?  This would be a non-issue with the signals that have motion detection...CORRECT?

Thanks!  Mark

Hi John...posted some shots below of some of my switches.  Mark

WOW, I would use push type bottons. But, I guess the damage is done.

John

Thanks John.  No doubt I can go with push buttons......but....having it correct and with signals will be cool.  Like most OGR Hi=-Railers, I think it's the actual layout work that I like the best, even it is a switch tear out project!

mark

I think I figured this out, WITHOUT having to pull up my switches.  Does anyone have comments on why this would not work?  Seem's straightforward minus the extra work(which is the real fun....).

1)  Keep the Atlas #57 Switch Controls

2)  Add Atlas 6924 Non-Derail (Matter of just re-routing wires and adding in wires, etc.)

3)  No Power routing needed since I don't have any trouble with engines crossing switches and losing power.

4)  Atlas #6931 dwarf signal:  I can add these in as needed/wanted AND connect them to the Atlas #6924 No derail Board as shown in schematics.

5)  3 AMP Fuse:  Like CT Mike I can add these in for additional protection.

Mark B.