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Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

I will believe it when I see it. Atlas O announced Amtrak F40 and ttax sets two years ago and they never flourished. I think the Bach Mann has the K-line tooling.

 

And how did you hear this on the "Atlas forum"? Has not that forum been shut down for a while?

Ughh, that sucks. I have a few Bachmann locomotives and I'm not a fan. 

Originally Posted by Laidoffsick:
We STILL havent seen the Dash 8's! I wouldn't even be curious about what they might do in the future. Not to mention the "Z" cars............ what a disaster

Yep. When they announced the Cal Zeph cars they mentioned that those would be the first of many Budd-based passenger cars. At $150/car, a few people got sticker shock, but having seen the cars, Atlas did put a lot into them. I just wish they could get a factory on-board to get this stuff produced.

Jim Weaver had plans to reissue some of the former K Line products, including the SD75 and F40, upgraded to Atlas standards. When we had to leave the factory we were using, we also lost access to this tooling, so we are not going to be doing those models at this point.

 

As far as the Dash 8s, the U23B, RS1 and RS3 models will come first, then the Dash 8s.  Two of the first three are ready for production, and once that starts, it should progress fairly rapidly.

 

For the CZ cars, we just received the test shots for the next two cars.  The drawings for the following cars are in house and being reviewed as well.

 

There is also some new rolling stock being tooled, but there isn't a firm date for an announcement as yet. Hopefully before the end of the year.

 

 

Originally Posted by Paul Graf:

Jim Weaver had plans to reissue some of the former K Line products, including the SD75 and F40, upgraded to Atlas standards. When we had to leave the factory we were using, we also lost access to this tooling, so we are not going to be doing those models at this point.

 

As far as the Dash 8s, the U23B, RS1 and RS3 models will come first, then the Dash 8s.  Two of the first three are ready for production, and once that starts, it should progress fairly rapidly.

 

For the CZ cars, we just received the test shots for the next two cars.  The drawings for the following cars are in house and being reviewed as well.

 

There is also some new rolling stock being tooled, but there isn't a firm date for an announcement as yet. Hopefully before the end of the year.

 

 

I'm glad to hear that you're rerunning the Dash 8s. I can't find any. I also hope to get the U23Bs, RS1s, and RS3s. I think you should make a Big Boy, you could probably make a lot of money off of that.

Originally Posted by TrainStuff13:

 

I'm glad to hear that you're rerunning the Dash 8s. I can't find any. I also hope to get the U23Bs, RS1s, and RS3s. I think you should make a Big Boy, you could probably make a lot of money off of that.

 

 

I dunno about that; Atlas O has stated in the past that the steam locomotive market in O gauge is tricky waters to tread, especially with large articulated steamers and how the market got saturated with those.  They had indicated that they would prefer to take a more conservative approach and do steam locs along the lines of USRA designs which are more "generic" where they can be applied to a wider range of road names and where road-specific configurations are more manageable (hence more economical to produce) and appeal to a wider audience; hence their 0-6-0 switcher engine which you'll note is the only steam engine offered in their Master Line; must be a reason for that.

Originally Posted by John Korling:
Originally Posted by TrainStuff13:

 

I'm glad to hear that you're rerunning the Dash 8s. I can't find any. I also hope to get the U23Bs, RS1s, and RS3s. I think you should make a Big Boy, you could probably make a lot of money off of that.

 

 

I dunno about that; Atlas O has stated in the past that the steam locomotive market in O gauge is tricky waters to tread, especially with large articulated steamers and how the market got saturated with those.  They had indicated that they would prefer to take a more conservative approach and do steam locs along the lines of USRA designs which are more "generic" where they can be applied to a wider range of road names and where road-specific configurations are more manageable (hence more economical to produce) and appeal to a wider audience; hence their 0-6-0 switcher engine which you'll note is the only steam engine offered in their Master Line; must be a reason for that.

If you take a look at the entire Atlas Line up they only have had one other steam locomotive and that is in N: An 1890's 4-4-0.  I understand that was originally someone else's locomotive that was never released.

 

Even in olden times they only had an N Scale USRA Pacific, USRA Mikado and a quasi-Americanized European 0-6-0T, all made for Atlas by Roco.  Atlas had no steam in HO.

 

Steam has never been big for Atlas.

 

With all the hoo-ha about the VL Big Boy, plus the fact MTH could always release another one in the future, what serious chance would an Atlas Big Boy have?

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by falconservice:

Everyone in O Scale and O Gauge who needs and wants a release of the K-Line SD70MAC / SD75M or SD75I will have to contact the people Bachmann repeatedly on the phone, by mail, by Facebook, by Twitter, and in person at Model Railroad shows.

 

They have all the K-Line items at their factory in China.

 

 

 

Andrew

Ditto, I agree. They have ready cash sitting there in them molds doing nothing but collecting China dust.

Nobody outside of brass production has even come close to producing one of the most popular locos ever, the SD70/75 series loco. Truck placement, fuel tank size and overall length have contributed to the lack of realistic models. The in-board truck placement on Lionel and MTH models is nothing shy of awful looking For sure.  

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by John Korling:
 

If you take a look at the entire Atlas Line up they only have had one other steam locomotive and that is in N: An 1890's 4-4-0.  I understand that was originally someone else's locomotive that was never released.

 

The 4-4-0 was tooled by us, it was never someone else's loco.

 

We did sell an 1800s era 2-6-0 a few years back that was tooled by MicroAce in Japan, but was based off of a US built locomotive.

 

We have also had, in N scale, an 0-8-0 made by Rivarossi, a USRA 2-8-8-2 that was tooled by Samhongsa, and a two truck Shay, which will be returning to production in 2015.

 

 

Originally Posted by Paul Graf:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by John Korling:
 

If you take a look at the entire Atlas Line up they only have had one other steam locomotive and that is in N: An 1890's 4-4-0.  I understand that was originally someone else's locomotive that was never released.

 

The 4-4-0 was tooled by us, it was never someone else's loco.

 

 

I never suggested that it was.

Originally Posted by Paul Graf:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by John Korling:
 

If you take a look at the entire Atlas Line up they only have had one other steam locomotive and that is in N: An 1890's 4-4-0.  I understand that was originally someone else's locomotive that was never released.

 

The 4-4-0 was tooled by us, it was never someone else's loco.

 

 

Then I was misinformed.  Sorry.

 

Forgot about the 0-8-0's, even though I had one.  Missed the 2-8-8-2 somehow, the only one I can recall was the Y6B for MRC which then wound up at Con-Cor.

 

Rusty

Last edited by Rusty Traque
Why???  That model had a too-shallow fuel tank and other variations from the prototype.  Everyone would complain and Bachmann would regret making it.
 
 
I think dusting off that tooling would be a big mistake.
 
Originally Posted by John Pignatelli JR.:
Originally Posted by falconservice:

Everyone in O Scale and O Gauge who needs and wants a release of the K-Line SD70MAC / SD75M or SD75I will have to contact the people Bachmann repeatedly on the phone, by mail, by Facebook, by Twitter, and in person at Model Railroad shows.

 

They have all the K-Line items at their factory in China.

   

Andrew

Ditto, I agree. They have ready cash sitting there in them molds doing nothing but collecting China dust.

 

Last edited by Martin H
Originally Posted by Martin H:
Why???  That model had a too-shallow fuel tank and other variations from the prototype.  Everyone would complain and Bachmann would regret making it.
 
 
I think dusting off that tooling would be a big mistake.
 

 

 

 

Originally Atlas O' intent was to take the K-Line SD70 molds (and the other molds that they originally ended up with after K-Line folded) and upgrade them to meet their standards.  So if the cards were stacked in Atlas O's favor where the molds were still in their possession, the discrepancy with the fuel tank (in addition to others) would have been addressed and corrected.

Originally Posted by John Korling:
Originally Posted by Paul Graf:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by John Korling:
 

If you take a look at the entire Atlas Line up they only have had one other steam locomotive and that is in N: An 1890's 4-4-0.  I understand that was originally someone else's locomotive that was never released.

 

The 4-4-0 was tooled by us, it was never someone else's loco.

 

 

I never suggested that it was.

Sorry, trimmed the quote wrong.

 

Paul

 

To digress from the subject of locomotives and onto cabooses, something I would love to see Atlas do is a Green Bay & Western caboose. Both Atlas and MTH have built GBW diesels, but there's never been a caboose to go with them, and you can't even buy a decent red logo decal to decorate your own caboose without going the custom route. The Trainman bay window caboose would be a perfectly good approximation of an actual GBW bay window caboose, and I think everybody who has a GBW engine would instantly pre-order one. The GBW caboose in the photo appears to be a standard Thrall steel unit from the 1950's. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mike Slater:

scale rail graphics made the decals for the caboose they are out of business

 

I'm not sure they ever made those decals in 0 gauge. I have some Scale Rail Graphics GBW decals, but they are all HO. That's OK, the heralds are the right size for flat cars, but too small for a caboose. Maybe they made the GBW decals in 0 gauge at some point; by the time I started buying decals from them they were starting to get out of the business. 

 

If I get the time to repaint a caboose before somebody does a ready-made one, I could always make my own decals on white decal paper. I'd rather spend the time on something else, though, which is why I've bugged Atlas to make a GBW caboose. 

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