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On a curve, next to a wall, not a double track.  My basement has a 5 x 21 foot knock out, on one end the layout will have an 072 curve which will be built into this corner and continue out into the basement.  The 21 foot side is where the engine will turn in, close to the wall and the 5 foot side will have a clearance for an operator.  Trying to save some space since I have a lot planed for this portion of the mountain division and searching through the files I see a double main line should have a 6" clearance, so I'm thinking a 3 or 3.5" may do the trick.  Any advice would be appreciated before I start this this section of benchwork.

 

Jack 

 

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I can measue my track when I get home.  I have a MTH Premier and I had to addjust the track several times in one corner to get the Big Boy from making a line on it.  The best thing you can do is as others have stated.  Put some track down and test the fit.  I also had to modify a couple bridges coming out of a curve.

Thanks everyone for the quick responses, I will have to try some track on the floor as you advised.  My MTH BB is off premises at this point, however will be attending our club meeting soon where one of our members has a many more than one on his layout. When we fire up we let the local fire dept. know all's A-OK.

 

Jack 

Measuring Atlas O, 072 curves our Club master carpenter gets exact 3" center rail to wall so my way of thinking the space needed would be a least 3.5", I have room for 4.5" which is what I will use.  If anyone has a curved bridge with railings, the equipment (pipes) hanging from under the BB cab should also be taken into consideration on curves.

 

 We also measured a BB on 099 curves, from the end of the Atlas O ties, clearance is .75".  Also you cannot run a Y3B on MTH's 40-1031 Steel Arch Bridge bridge, not enough side clearance with the cross rod hangers on this engine.

 

These clearances  do not take into consideration passenger car hangover on inside curves, on double main lines. Hope this info is helpful.

 

Jack 

You can reduce the required clearance, and the trains will look better, if you use an "easement" going into the curve. That's assuming the track parallels the wall before heading in to the curve. With sectional track, just one or two sections of wider radius will give an adequate easement effect without adding much to the overall diameter of the curve. Maybe O-108 leading in to O72? SCARM or other track-planning software will help you figure the additional width of the curve, if you want to be precise. Best to lay it out and try your loco on it before committing to build it.

 

I run an MTH bigboy on O54 curves with O72 easements; wider curves would look better but my space is limited. The overhang is quite noticeable; I don't remember the actual measurements offhand. I didn't really plan to have a Bigboy but a friend made me a great deal on it. The big articulateds really look better on much wider curves IMO.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jack:

Also you cannot run a Y3B on MTH's 40-1031 Steel Arch Bridge bridge, not enough side clearance with the cross rod hangers on this engine. Hope this info is helpful.

 

Jack 

More info is always helpful. Just purchased two of these and almost bought a Lionel y-3 blowout. Wouldn't have been good getting it wedged in the middle!

Some food for thought... courtesy of the North Penn club!!! 

 

 

Tunnel portal before the Big Boy arrived.  Life was clean and simple.  But trouble is lurking within here...    We wanted GRJ to give it full throttle... afterall die-cast vs. foam... it's a clear winner.  But he wanted to play it safe since the Big Boy was on its maiden voyage here. 

0002_NorthPennClub_BigBoy2014_1014

 

 

Of course, having the right tools makes the job a bit easier! 

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Here's another tunnel portal AFTER surgery to accommodate the Big Boy!

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Good thing this guy was on the inside track here.  The outer track would have meant more tunnel portal surgery. 

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Straight-aways are no problem, of course:

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Anybody else think you don't need to plan ahead for this Big Boy??? 

 

David

 

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Or you could just use bigger curve??? That would solve several problems i see there!

Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:

       

Some food for thought... courtesy of the North Penn club!!! 

 

 

Tunnel portal before the Big Boy arrived.  Life was clean and simple.  But trouble is lurking within here...    We wanted GRJ to give it full throttle... afterall die-cast vs. foam... it's a clear winner.  But he wanted to play it safe since the Big Boy was on its maiden voyage here. 

0002_NorthPennClub_BigBoy2014_1014

 

 

Of course, having the right tools makes the job a bit easier! 

0005_NorthPennClub_BigBoy2014_1009

 

 

Here's another tunnel portal AFTER surgery to accommodate the Big Boy!

0001_NorthPennClub_BigBoy2014_1010

 

 

Good thing this guy was on the inside track here.  The outer track would have meant more tunnel portal surgery. 

0004_NorthPennClub_BigBoy2014_1070

 

 

Straight-aways are no problem, of course:

0003_NorthPennClub_BigBoy2014_1057

 

 

Anybody else think you don't need to plan ahead for this Big Boy??? 

 

David

 

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