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Coupler load limitations on unit trains?

 

Here is what I have found on the internet. Has this been discussed on the forum?

 

Drawbar strength is limiting, on how much power you can put on the head end and expect knuckles not to break off (the "broken drawbar" is almost always a broken knuckle). Couplers come in two varieties, standard and high-strength. Almost all Western roads use high-strength, at least on bulk cars (hoppers, covered hoppers), as do most private owners of unit-train cars. Eastern roads often use standard strength even on hoppers. 

By comparison of why this matters, on the 2.0% climb from Taberna***o the West Portal of Moffat Tunnel, a train is allowed 8000 trailing tons with high-strength couplers, but only 5000 tons with standard couplers. The difference for a unit coal train might be three or four power sets versus two or three. 

Knuckles break off with some regularity. Bad train handling gets most of them, but also DPU failures, undesired emergency brake applications (from many causes), and mechanical failures of various types.

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Here's something to remember when you are at trackside watching a train pass, and you hear the thunder of a harsh slack adjustment.  Maybe none of those knuckles broke right then, but hairline cracks result, and -someday, somewhere after months or years of oxidation in those cracks - that knuckle will break.  Of all the broken couplers and knuckles I analyzed as an official, very few were all new breakage.

 

Also, I would challenge your statement that knuckles break with some regularity.  Let's be fair to our North American Locomotive Engineers, who -- in my experience -- do not regularly break couplers.  The failure rate is actually pretty low when looked at as incidents per thousand car miles, and our contemporary Engineers are pretty skilled at train handling.

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Originally Posted by Number 90:

Here's something to remember when you are at trackside watching a train pass, and you hear the thunder of a harsh slack adjustment.  Maybe none of those knuckles broke right then, but hairline cracks result, and -someday, somewhere after months or years of oxidation in those cracks - that knuckle will break.  Of all the broken couplers and knuckles I analyzed as an official, very few were all new breakage.

 

Also, I would challenge your statement that knuckles break with some regularity.  Let's be fair to our North American Locomotive Engineers, who -- in my experience -- do not regularly break couplers.  The failure rate is actually pretty low when looked at as incidents per thousand car miles, and our contemporary Engineers are pretty skilled at train handling.

Tom,

Sounds like the cases where breakage does occur are low cycle fatigue. What safety measures are in place to keep a consist from running away if a coupler break occurs?

Originally Posted by Wyhog:

 

What safety measures are in place to keep a consist from running away if a coupler break occurs?

Huh? The air brakes automatically go into emergency. Thus neither the head end portion nor the rear end portion can run away. In addition when the air brakes go into emergency the PCS (Power Control Switch) on every loco trips and immediately unloads the locomotives so they do not continue to pull.

 

I've heard of engineers tell of instances where their train went into emergency on them, and their first reaction was to go to full throttle in an attempt to prevent the front half of the train from stopping quicker than the rear half (causing a collision that could result in a derailment). This PCS you describe seems to defeat the stated aim of the above-described method of dealing with a break-in-two.

 

---PCJ

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One day westbound, we stopped at the west end of Strong City, KS. A loaded grain train was in the siding being re-crewed. They had already called the DS to come out on the main, and we were going to have to follow them on their block the rest of the trip. He the got a signal and took off, but got in too big a hurry. He had it all stretched out at about ten mph, and went to what sounded like R-8, with a loud bang, the drawbar pulled out of the first car behind the engine. The engine jumped ahead a couple of car lengths, and stopped before the Engineer could get it bailed off. The drawbar fell between the rails, and the train rammed into the engines which were stopped. The coupler on the rear unit was driven right into the hole in the end of the sill where the drawbar had just come out of. It was rammed in there as far as it would go, and the one that fell out was under the front truck of the car. All this happened before they took the signal, so after a few minutes, the DS lined us up and took us instead.

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