Future Projects for GGD/Sunset to consider

rex desilets posted

Oh, please. With so many worthwhile potential models out there to be produced?

Reading K-1, anyone?

I would love to have a Reading K-1!

The Reading T-1 just doesn't get me excited and I have no steam locomotives to pull my coal hoppers. 

Jim

Rule292 posted:

The issue is how many units of a particular model will sell.  

Pretty much is the bottom line on the subject - reality is harsh mistress.

And, while I still want a PRR Yellow Kid - Westerfield set here

I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that the numbers will probably never support that happening along with the lengthy list of other items that I would like to see.  You can't always get what you want, but....

mwb posted:

Rule292 posted:

The issue is how many units of a particular model will sell.  

Pretty much is the bottom line on the subject - reality is harsh mistress.

And, while I still want a PRR Yellow Kid - Westerfield set here

I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that the numbers will probably never support that happening along with the lengthy list of other items that I would like to see.  You can't always get what you want, but....

I've already found that I've gotten more than I need....

A Reading K1 would be real nice.

mwb posted:

Rule292 posted:

The issue is how many units of a particular model will sell.  

Pretty much is the bottom line on the subject - reality is harsh mistress.

And, while I still want a PRR Yellow Kid - Westerfield set here

I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that the numbers will probably never support that happening along with the lengthy list of other items that I would like to see.  You can't always get what you want, but....

The only thing more unlikely than getting it produced is getting it produced in P:48.

For want of a time machine... to be affluent enough to have ridden the real Yellow Kid 

I know I'm in the minority scale demographic with P:48, but for grins I wonder if there are more pre-WWII/pre-1920's modelers than there are P:48'ers?

Well I too for one would be in for a Yellow Kid! Will look great with my MTH PRR 4-4-0

SD70MAC................................

Regard,

Swafford

Rule292 posted:

Engineer-Joe posted:

jonnyspeed posted:

I would like to see any of the following produced with DCC/Sound. Steam with smoke as well.

• GP30
• SW1
• RS-2
• 2-6-0 
• 4-4-0
• Erie K-5 4-6-2 Pacific, Erie N-2 2-8-2 Mikado, Erie G-15 4-6-0 

the new MTH catalog has the GP30, and there's a 4-6-0 G5 that may be of interest?

 

Pity,  The models pictured for the G5 as well as the CNJ 4-6-0 or the GP30 look very toylike.

Here is a good example of a current MTH product, the E8  It is good but nowhere near the accuracy and fidelity as Sunset/3rd Rail models.  MTH just has too many oversize or generic (or just lacking) details.

Thus my comment about the MTH models looking "toylike" (even though anything less than 1:1 is a toy).

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...ains-these-look-good

Rule292 posted:

Here is a good example of a current MTH product, the E8  It is good but nowhere near the accuracy and fidelity as Sunset/3rd Rail models.  MTH just has too many oversize or generic (or just lacking) details.

Thus my comment about the MTH models looking "toylike" (even though anything less than 1:1 is a toy).

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...ains-these-look-good

Lift rings and ditch lights on Erie E8s???    Mere caricatures of the prototype.

Opinion.

I am aware that some of the models I mentioned have been done before. The point of this thread is what would we like to see Scott make? I would take any of the models I mentioned from him.

Swafford posted:

SD70MAC................................

Regard,

Swafford

 

Yes...modern power.  

jd-train posted:

rex desilets posted

Oh, please. With so many worthwhile potential models out there to be produced?

Reading K-1, anyone?

I would love to have a Reading K-1!

The Reading T-1 just doesn't get me excited and I have no steam locomotives to pull my coal hoppers. 

Jim

Oh, Jim, how can you not love the T-1? It was hauling freight when nearly everything else was on the scrap line. Spent a happy couple of hours photographing the T-1 at Steamtown. Going to upgrade my 1990 Lionel version starting with the effort documented by wowak on this forum.

I'd really like a K-1, but I doubt 3rd Rail could get enough reservations. Still, if 3rd Rail is contemplating the T&P loco, maybe there's a chance...Casting  gimlet eye on my PRR N-1.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Well I too for one would be in for a Yellow Kid! Will look great with my MTH PRR 4-4-0

Finally figured out how to do this.  Enjoy these photos for the fifth time!  If you miss them, somebody will surely repeat this post below.

jonnyspeed posted:

• 2-6-0 
• 4-4-0

Ok, so which 2-6-0 and which 4-4-0?  Oddly enough generics don't fly so specific prototypes are what need to be proposed. 

Swafford posted:

SD70MAC................................

Regard,

Swafford

 

I'm in! Wait..... unless they look too toyish!!!

I guess I'll have to reserve any buying until it's produced and I can weigh in with my opinions of accuracy.

mwb posted:

jonnyspeed posted:

• 2-6-0 
• 4-4-0

Ok, so which 2-6-0 and which 4-4-0?  Oddly enough generics don't fly so specific prototypes are what need to be proposed. 

I was actually thinking generic to be honest with you MWB. If I had to Choose, I'd say CNR (Strasburg) 2-6-0 #89 and PRR 4-4-0 #1223.

I'd also like to add the B&O B-class 4-6-0.

Do they only produce locomotives and passenger cars?

Are there any freight cars they would produce?

Andrew

Ok, so which 2-6-0 and which 4-4-0?  Oddly enough generics don't fly so specific prototypes are what need to be proposed. 

For me it's PRR and the only 2-6-0 the PRR had was the F3. For the 4-4-0 I second the PRR D16 Strasburg engine #1223. But IF someone got scott to make the PRR E2B 4-4-2, I would be in for that too!

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Ok, so which 2-6-0 and which 4-4-0?  Oddly enough generics don't fly so specific prototypes are what need to be proposed. 

 

For me it's PRR and the only 2-6-0 the PRR had was the F3. For the 4-4-0 I second the PRR D16 Strasburg engine #1223. But IF someone got scott to make the PRR E2B 4-4-2, I would be in for that too!

Actually, there was an F1a and some other odd F classes before the end of that class with the F3c.  I have all the F3c's that I need for the CVRR, but were a far better version made available, I could be induced to take a crowbar to the piggy bank.

A good plain, but accurate D16, not a D16sb, would get my attention.

mwb posted:

jonnyspeed posted:

• 2-6-0 
• 4-4-0

Ok, so which 2-6-0 and which 4-4-0?  Oddly enough generics don't fly so specific prototypes are what need to be proposed. 

PFM and GEM prospered with the Baldwin standard 2-8-0, 4-4-0, and 4-6-0. Used all over the place.

Unsuitable for the PRR, RDG et al purists, but perhaps could be made for the rest of the community. Problem as I see it is the dearth of RTR rolling stock suitable for them (please don't go all Lucius Beebe on me about this)

E2b ,  E2a  either way I would continue to send my money to Shani.  442 I'm down

Another 2-6-0 for consideration: The Everett RR 2-6-0 #11. Beautiful engine.

rex desilets posted:

jd-train posted:

rex desilets posted

Oh, please. With so many worthwhile potential models out there to be produced?

Reading K-1, anyone?

I would love to have a Reading K-1!

The Reading T-1 just doesn't get me excited and I have no steam locomotives to pull my coal hoppers. 

Jim

Oh, Jim, how can you not love the T-1? It was hauling freight when nearly everything else was on the scrap line. Spent a happy couple of hours photographing the T-1 at Steamtown. Going to upgrade my 1990 Lionel version starting with the effort documented by wowak on this forum.

I'd really like a K-1, but I doubt 3rd Rail could get enough reservations. Still, if 3rd Rail is contemplating the T&P loco, maybe there's a chance...Casting  gimlet eye on my PRR N-1.

 

vs:

While I like the streamline look on the Pacifics used in passenger service (love my SGL set), the T-1 just doesn't have the same beefy look as the K-1 or many of the other freight engines.

I know this is silly as the T-1 is both a legendary locomotive AND a survivor, and every Reading modeler should have one on their layout.  As no one seems interested in making scale Reading steam locomotives, I'll likely end up someday buying one of the early T-1 Lionel engines and having it upgraded as well.

Jim

Overland Models made the T-1 and Weaver made a few variations of Reading pacifics I believe.

JD-train

What is a K1? I know the Reading railroad from my monopoly game.

  Play like you are a salesman in a big LHS trying to explain why and what the K1 was.  Did it use new technology? Did it run on particularly hard routes? Was it famous for hauling certain loads or trains? Where are the survivors?

Pretend like you are discussing the above with a good customer who has purchased upscale models from you in the past and price and electronics are not an issue.  

It is hard for me to imagine why any more east coast railroad steamers are needed.

Douglas

Douglas,

The Reading 3000-series K1 started as a rebuilding program in 1927 with parts supplied by Baldwin. The first 11 locomotives were rebuilt in the Reading Shops from N1’s 2-8-8-2 which were built between 1917-1919. An additional ten locomotives (3011-3020) were built by Baldwin. The 3000-3009 were classed K1-sa, 3010 was classed K1-sc, and the 3011-3020 were classed K1-sb. 

The big difference between the rebuilt locomotives and the Baldwin built locomotives were the number of sand domes. The rebuilt locomotives kept their twin domes from the N-1's and the baldwin built locomotives had one large dome.

I actually have that one on my list - I do like Reading steam, and have the 0-4-0 and the beginnings of a G-1 on my workbench.  I have the drawings for the big 2-10-2, and like ten-coupled power.  But I wonder if the market is big enough for a commercial version.  Mine would be 17/64, of course.  These giant fireboxes are actually easier than the regular kind.

George

  Your reply was very interesting and informative. Good pictures too.

Thank you

Douglas