German Dr 18 cab#210

Fulgurex is very famous in Europe and is "THE" absolute reference for European trains.

Similar to what KEYS does in the USA.

 

Fulgurex is very pricey but their models will withstand the passing of time and gain value.

 

Yves

You might like this video of the same locomotive on the Dresden Verkehrmuseum layout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46P1f06tjvo

IIRC this locomotive was homemade; they also have a Fulgurex version in a display case.

Yves and Michiel,  thank you for your comments and the video.

 

As of yet I have not had this engine in my possession.  It went straight from the vendor to the installer.  Hopefully they can complete the install next week and return it to me.

Not sure I agree with Yves who asserts that Fulgurex is 'THE' absolute reference for European trains, I have a Fulgurex locomotive (brought for less than the new price (vitrinen modelle), and three Lemaco locomotives.

 

 

I consider they are built to a price not a specification, none of them match Kohs for build quality or are even close. No bearings throughout, no functioning leaf springs, rivets etched not punched etc. As Korean paint is super the finish is good regardless of importer.

 

Neither Fulgurex or Lemaco gain value, witness the Lemaco 01.5 (mit boxpok radern) sold on ebay.de yesterday for 3800 euro's, new they retailed at DM13000, that looks like a loss to me. 

 

The surest method of wealth destruction for man after cars is to dabble in Eurobrass. 

 

Opinion.

 

n.

Limey; here are a few pictures of this loco.  Looks highly detailed to me.

Please comment

Hi Daylight, yes a member of my club has one and its nicely detailed, he brought his at auction and paid considerably less than the new price, I would be happy to have one. I stand by my comment comparing Swiss brass to Koh's etc however.  The Koh's product is superior for substantially less money, the Swiss are now asking stupid money for the product. I would also add that the Lematec Ocem's were beautifully done in brass, the same guys has some at my club. 

just curious based on your expertise; what would you say would be a fair price for this loco in US dollars (mint condition) I had hoped that it would have sound and smoke since I am coming from O gauge 3 rail models.

 

The smoke stack is blocked down in its chamber so I don't think this model or any of their steam engines were intended to have smoke added.  Maybe this is not a desire for individuals that purchase these kind of models.

 

I hope to have DCC and the correct sound system added; hopefully this week.

 

Looking at their 2015 catalog I don't see any new steam for 2015 just diesels with sound.  I'm sure way out of my price range.

 

I will look at Lematec Ocems just out of curiosity.

I spoke by email with my friend who has one of these models, he can't lay
his hands on the catalogue but believes he paid £2k or $2950 at current
exchange rates at auction back about 14 years ago give or take. Model was
virtually mint

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:46 PM, O Gauge Railroading On Line Forum <
alerts@hoop.la> wrote:

At an auction in 2000 the Fulgurex 18.201 in Gauge 1 sold for 4500 British pound; the 0 gauge version sold for 2200 pound; both new and boxed. I have no idea about how much $ that was then (or now).

 

Further I do not think Kohs could or should be compared to Fulgurex. Fulgurex is a trading firm in model railways/railroads for some 65 years already; of course models from 1960/70 are not easy compared with current production. Further they offered items made not only in Asia but also by manufactures from Italy (Dottori; Elettren...), Britain (J&M) and Germany  (Bockholt,...). So a general quality statement about Fulgurex models is not easily made. A Bockholt for Fulgurex model will surely have kept is value and is one of the finest you can get. Aster made for Fulgurex is again another story (and market).

 

Regards

Fred

 

 

Limey, thank you for the info.  I paid $3,100.00 which included shipping so I'm satisfied especially with  the size 1 Gauge vs O Scale.  Based on the videos on you tube I think Fulgurex nailed it as far as detail is concerned.     

 

Key Model imports is getting ready to release a Cab Forward in O Scale which will now includes an elaborate sound system.  Think they are all spoken for.  I may have located on stand by for $5,900.00 (which I won't be getting).

 

Can't locate the youtube video but when I do I will forward to you. I think you will be impressed.

 

for your info Lionel just released a Cab Forward in a "Southern Pacific Daylight" paint scheme (fantasy) which out sold the correctly painted "black" model.                       

The great thing about Fulgurex were the cottage industry craftsmen that the company accessed from all over Europe.

The Count's own collection would have all of us drooling, like his Beeson models; the Faberge of model trains, they called him.

Here's an archive article on a book written about Fulgurex:

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/01...he-times-199274.html

 

Disclosure: My collection of high-end tinplate consists of a few beaten-up items of Lionel standard gauge; nothing I have to pick up with white gloves, and nothing in the Fulgurex ballpark whatsoever 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And those were the hammer prices -- the buyer's premium added another 17.5 %.

 

Both of these models were listed as manufactured by "GT International" -- an outfit I don't think I've heard of, before or since -- in 1999 and 1996 respectively.

 

Best rgds, SZ

I wonder whether GT International and GR International are the same (or even a typo in the auction catalog). GR International presented quite some Gauge 1 trains in the 1990's; the manufacturer was Samhongsa. They did (also?) American locomotives like the Hiawatha which can be seen here in my garden:

Regards

Fred

 

Very nice video.  I'm a big fan of the Milwaukee Road Hiawathas (Atlantic and the F7 Hudson).

 

Are we saying that Fulgurex didn't manufacture this model but out shopped it to another manufacturer.  I know this has been done on a limited basis in the O    Gauge/Scale industry.  Also it may be from 1999/2000?  If so, it's a highly detailed model from that time period especially in the cab area.

 

Was it rare for 1 gauge engines from that period did not have sound installed.

 

I notice on the Fulgurex website that they now offer digital sound in their 1 gauge diesels.  Their 3 listed catalogs covering the present back to 2010 did not feature the DR 18 so I knew that it was at least 6 years old.

 

A number of years ago I bought a Sunset 3rd rail UP 1000 but I think it was shopped out to Accucraft based on the box that it came in.

 

Still waiting for DCC, sound and smoke (if possible) to be installed.

 

Thanx to everyone for all of the comments( no manual came with the model).

Should have read the above a little closer.  Gt International was an Auction House?

Daylight,

 

The Fulgurex 18.201 was announced in 1999 (I assume delivered in early 2000); the catalog number was 1240; a total number of 50 pieces were made (so you may call it rare).

 

GT International (or GR International?) was the manufacturer or its agent; I assume it was made by Samhongsa. As said, Fulgurex was more a trading company that also commisioned models at other companies.

 

The auction Steinzeit and I mentioned was an auction in  2000 at Christies in London; the auction was called The Fulgurex Archive Collection.

 

There is a lot more to tell about Fulgurex; see the link previously mentioned by Firewood:

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/01...he-times-199274.html

 

Regards

Fred

 

Thank you Fred, Samhongsa has made exceptional models thru the years so I can understand the excellent detail on this model even thought it was made 15 years ago.

 

I had no idea how old this model was when I purchased it; never thought it could have been that old.

 

Thank you for the info.

 

Glad only 50 were made so  I consider it rare.

Morning Limey. just heard from the installer and he was unable to get any exploded diagrams from Fulgurex (long gone); very disappointed.  So he is very concerned about opening up this model for installation of DCC and sound since he has not previously worked on any models for Fulgurex.  Also some detail joints are loose and he doesn't want to re solder since he claims that it will ruin the paint may be able to glue if they come loose.

 

Would it be possible to ask  the club member if he has any manuals or parts breakdown that he could copy and send me.  I will pay for the copying and shipping.

 

Please advise; thank you

Bart

Hi Bart, my friend currently lives in mainland Europe for the next year but I managed to speak with him, there was no manual or exploded diagrams with the model although he has successfully worked on the locomotive, I suggest you try Fulgurex in Lausanne, Ch. Interestingly Lemaco do exploded diagrams with their imports.  

Thank you for the response.  My vendor is supposed to start to hopefully adding DCC, sound and smoke starting tomorrow.  They have received the needed tools to open the model.  Really anxious to get this model in my hands.  Haven't seen it since purchase