The Hudson Runs Again!

Hi,

   I used JB Weld, lots of rubber bands and lot's of patience's, it broke in big 

pieces so it was like a jigsaw puzzle and so far it's looking good. the bad news 

is the chassis the jb Weld didn't hold and if feel apart but on ebay last week

I won a repro chassis which I hope works out, as I was told made of steel

and it needs to be painted black but one side where the motor goes has a

slight dent which I hope I could bend flat again (I hope).

Thanks 

Tin  

Hi, 

   Just a update, I finished the boiler with a second coat, I think it came out 

pretty nice, I used a spray can of Rust-Oleum Satin Black. Next I found another 

chassis a 700-2 it looks complete except for the two center wheels and gear, 

which I have from the broken one I have, we'll see how it works out, but 

getting there.

I added some of the piping back on the boiler and I think I should of left it dirty.

I gave them a little cleaning and they stand out to much, I think maybe I should 

paint them black to better fit the look of the painted boiler??

Tin 

Great work, Tin

You have given new meaning to the phrase.....fixer-upper.....

Peter

Here's a  picture of the added parts, if I wanted to paint the brass what's the best 

way?

Hi all,

    Just a update on the continuing Hudson restoring project, this is what I'm up to,

I was able to get another 700E-2 chassis and a original 700E motor, the new chassis 

came with four wheels but two of the just broke up like a cookies, so I had to mix and 

match with the other chassis I had, the biggest part was I Dremeled the two inner 

wheels to remove there flanges otherwise the wheels would not fit so far now it seems 

to fit O42 track before with all the wheels on that was a no go, is there a size difference 

between a 700E-1 and 700E-2 most likely the E-2 is for semi-scale? so far looking 

good just need the a few more parts.

Tin 

Great work!

Peter

Thanks it a bit of work but it's going good, still I find it a bit strange that the wheels are

marked the same but look a bit different?

Tin  

Well this has been a great restore, still have a few things to work on, the biggest 

problem was that a lot of the part's were wrong, the I had to get an original 

700e/763e motor and a replace 700e-2 chassis, insulators, screws and rivets.

One thing I had to build was a worm shaft rubber coupler that would hook up

to the motor coupler, I took three rubber washes they look like oreo cookies 

and glued the three of them together make two holes on either side for attaching

to the motor shaft and the results were great I got it running. This is just a test 

run.

Tin 

I admire your ambition and skill. Makes me think that maybe I should challenge myself more.

Thanks, I added a video I haven't done a train in awhile but I got to say this was 

the biggest restore job I've done.

Tin 

Thank you for the info it was a help, and now the Hudson, it's almost done just 

need a pilot truck a few screws, some jewels (red) and a cow catcher. All I have 

to say is now I know why it's considered there best engine, when you put 

it all together it's heavy and it runs smooth, now to find a tender! Will add more 

pictures when the lights better.

Tin 

Lookin' Good!

If you have the shell off again, I am interested in the motor to drive linkage system. I could only find a separated parts diagram on Olsen's for a newer engine. Would you post a close-up photo?

When you think of this engine in 1937, it was truly a nice engine and it still is today.

Did you see the post from a new member that has his father's? He wants to set up his father's set again. The last time they were run was 1972. He had an original 700E in the thirties as a child.

Lionel no. 700EW

Perhaps you could email him with some tips as you've been inside and out of one.

Yes I saw that post it was great that he got it complete, I have to add more 

pictures, the gear shaft and gear shaft is from a 773 I believe, but it works great

still if I could find a later gear shaft from a 700e/763e that's a 18-1 would be great

till then this is staying a least till I find wheels.

Tin 

Here's a picture of the Hudson with the shell off, because of the 773 worm shaft being 

shorter than the original I had to think of something to use to take up the space and 

hook up the two together so these three washes seem to work the best, I had to glue 

them together with Pliobond cement it's good with heat up to 200 degrees and it seems 

to hold good, It's great when you have access to good Hardware store which I found 

in New York City, when you find one that has the draw stuff you always find something 

to use which is great. Oh I had to change the wiring since this picture was taken it was 

falling apart when I worked with it and after it was done it seem to work better so I 

guess it's a plus.

Tin 

Thanks for the photo. yeah, the worm shaft that I looked at was longer with a slotted disk and a finger joint. That rubber looks like an improvement.

It does have the slotted disc at either end of the motor and worm shaft, it has the

two finger on each of them so all I had to do is make two holes on each side and 

slip it in.

Tin 

Tin, email me about a tender.

Pete

Tin,

I saw this on the 2-rail forum. Drive shafts mentioned is a supplier for universal joint and another for shafts and gears. P & D for the joints and NWSL for the shafts and gears.

You could set up a tasty drive!

Thanks I'll look into that.

Tin 

After about two month, the Hudson runs again! I did a lot of work on this bad boy. 

All I'm waiting for is a few more screws and a cowcatcher and it will be done, sorry 

about the snow set-up it's been up since Christmas and I can't take it down yet. I still

have to get a few curve tracks hopefully I can get a few O54 to run this on if not it will

have to be a wider curve.

Update! 

     It was a tight finish but I got a tender for my Hudson, it what it looks to 

be a reproduction in get this plastic so what I won was a T700 tender metal 

chassis and trucks with the plastic cover looks good I think, and I did find a set 

of Gargraves O54 track and it runs great on it.

Tin 

Could you repost your finished photo? It didn't come through. You have a lot of "sticktoitiveness". Well done. 

Hi all,

   Well I finished painting the tender for the Hudson project ans I used Tamiya paint in 

Matte Black it came out real good, check photo still need a cow catcher.

Tin 

Excellent work.  I give you credit for tackling this project.  

Great job!

Peter

Tin,

Wow! I am exhausted just thinking of the work you did. This will be gorgeous running on that T Rail track you just bought.

Great work!

Mack

My congratulations on your patience and diligence.  You have something to be proud of that few would have attempted.  I think it's just great when an old decrepit thing like that can be restored.

Tin guy, I have a "cowcatcher" that I would donate, it is an original from the forties. LMK. Will post a photo if you wish. 

Hi all,

    I got wheels! a complete set plus two more center blind ones and at a great 

price as well.

Tin 

That would be great.

Tin 

For everyone's info; for those trying to restore an original 5344 that has a rotted body, Williams has some scale Hudson shells for sale. They look very close to the original Lionel bodies but whether or not they would be a direct fit is the question. I would guess that they would need to be adapted and modified but who knows? Might be a great way to restore the 5344's that have been damaged beyond repair.

Thank you for the info I'll check it out.

Tin 

Just a update, I received the Hudson wheels today all in nice shape, except two 

wheels seem to have been redone, someone redid the holes in them but they 

did a great job. We'll have to take apart the engine to put them all on but it's 

worth it the axles and wheels are in better shape.

Tin 

New Update,

     I finally got the new wheels on and they came out great and with new axle 

bearings as well. The only problem I had was I put in a the gear worm I had and it

was the wrong one most likely a later version, so I ordered a original worm gear

from Encore Toy Trains and it was a perfect fit and when put back together 

the train runs great nice and smooth, will add pictures later.

Tin  

How about Hudson products parts.  Charles Ro had some back when I converted my 783 into a 700e.  They had any part you needed.  I was lucky and got three sets of lionel 90s 700e flanged drivers who I had a machinest friend who turned the flanges down to match his 37 700 e flanges.  I runs great on the t rail of gargraves.  He also turned all other wheels for me too.

A complete article was done with photos in a issue of an issue of lion roars.  I used a kramer tender with northwest short lline wheel sets in it.  

I kinda figured they would not match, thanks for that. I will indeed check out Charles 

Ro for parts.

Thanks 

Tin