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I got my Legacy remote back yesterday and everything appeared to function correctly.  Then I turned the smoke up to high output.  I ran the train a while and the smoke never really got that noticeable.  So I added more fluid.  I then ran the train some more.  While it was running around, I hit some buttons on the remote to see what they did.  At one point, I hit aux 2 which shut of directional lights on the train.  Since the train was running behind something, I was not aware that that button turned off the lights.  The next time I saw the train, I noticed the lights were not working.  I turned everything off and back on and the lights started working again.  I noticed the smoke was still not coming out much though.  I ended up taking the cover off of the loco and investigating to make sure that I was not overflowing the smoke and it was shorting out the lights.  There was some fluid around the edges of the loco.  Nothing looked to be leaking from the smoke unit and nothing appear to be on the wires.  So I decided to put it on the track with the cover off and fire it up and see if I noticed anything.  Still not much smoke output.  Then I decided to add some more smoke fluid while the smoke unit was running.  This caused the smoke fluid to create a bubble at the fill hole and blow fluid back up the funnel/stack. This meant that very little fluid was getting to the wick.  I then turned off the smoke unit, added fluid, and then turned smoke back on.  Now I have the amount of smoke I was hoping for.  I put the cover back on and it still smokes well.  I am sure that had I not breezed through the smoke fluid part of the manual, it would have told me to not add fluid while the smoke unit and fan are running.  I am glad I figured this out now and not after I filled the interior of the loco with smoke fluid.

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Every time I fill the smoke, I give the stack a little blow.

 

FWIW, with a new locomotive with a dry smoke unit, I've found that I need pretty much a full dropper of fluid from the JT's Mega-Steam bottle dropper.  After they've been primed and smoke output falls off, I use half a dropper.

 

Incidentally, I can't count the number of repairs I've gotten that have had the interior soaked with smoke fluid. 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Every time I fill the smoke, I give the stack a little blow.

 

FWIW, with a new locomotive with a dry smoke unit, I've found that I need pretty much a full dropper of fluid from the JT's Mega-Steam bottle dropper.  After they've been primed and smoke output falls off, I use half a dropper.

 

Incidentally, I can't count the number of repairs I've gotten that have had the interior soaked with smoke fluid. 

I blow into the stack a couple of times also.  When running a new locomotive or one which has been on the shelf for awhile, I put the required amount of smoke fluid in and let it sit overnight, add a few more drops and away we go.  I haven't had a problem with this method.  But sometimes I forget that I turned off the smoke unit on the remote.....oops!

 

Steve, Lady and Tex

MIke Reagan advises that we should always use the little Lionel funnel to add fluid, because that helps prevent the formation of bubbles. He also says that when the smoke unit runs low on fluid, we should shut it off for a while and allow it to cool before adding more fluid. When fluid is added to a hot smoke unit, it can form a kind of temporary crust on the wick that will inhibit smoke output until the unit is allowed to cool and then reheated. All this is in Mike's videos on the Lionel site and he has also posted about smoke units here on the forum. 

JP,

I had trouble with my first smoke unit too.  Mine was puffing away nicely on the first run.  Evidently the wick wasn't completely saturated, and soon I had smoke coming out of the sides and the stack.  Yes, I singed the wick.  Reading the replies I know I didn't put enough in for the first run.  My second problem is that I can't run the smoke units in the house.  I only run them on fastrack on the patio, since the smoke alarm goes off and calls the fire department.  When I told them it was okay, it was me, they said okay, another cooking fire, no problem, and walked away.  So I guess it went down in the report as a cooking fire.  

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