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I'm really confused about Lionel 6-22931 Cantilever Signal. Not how to hook it up, that's easy.


I'm confused at the number of red and green lights and at the odd positions on the pole.

TOP: Red - Red - Green   BOTTOM: Red Green.

If this was to be used over two or three lines of track, I could understand it, maybe.

But Lionel's directions show it being used over only one line of track.

Why not just a simple red and green light to show the track is clear or not, like the old Lionel 153 block signals.

Why so many lights on the new one?   

And does this Cantilever Signal actually exist on a current railroad?

Thanx.

Last edited by riki
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After 69 views, I guess other OGR'ers are just as confused about this Lionel signal as I am.

I don't think an actual signal like this exits in real life. So why did Lionel make it?

And if this thing does exist, what's the purpose of all the red and green lights in such a weird configuration?

I'm ready to vote this as "one of silliest accessories" from another thread on the forum.

Don,

 

Thanks alot for trying to find more info about the signal.

I read the article and i'm still a bit confused about Permissive signals and Absolute signals.

But its the 3 lights on top and two lights on the bottom of the Lionel signal and the the color arrangement that I've never seen before.  especially since its being used on just one track and not multiple tracks.

 

I thought I read that someone of the OGR staff worked for the railroad at one time so maybe they would know how to read the signals when in different positions.

I undertstand the function of the bottom light since its just red and green. But the top light that's Red - Red- Green is confusing.

Thanks for your help, though.

There are some railroad signals you could get depending on which lights you light up. Do you have the option of turning each light on or off?

 

Ex A green over red would be a clear signal high ball

 

 A red over green would be a slow clear,, 15 per through a crossover and then high ball after the last cat clears the crossover.

 

 A  green in the middle of 2 reds... medium clear    30 per over the crossover and again high ball after the last car clears the crossover or plant.

 

Hope this helps a bit.

 

 

 

Last edited by Gregg

yes these did exist , the west shore wich became part of NYC in the 50s had lots of them. that one had the extra head to be used at an interlocking ( where multiple routs were possable).  each head would have been capable of producing all three colors as well as a flashing indication. model makers tend to put only a single color in each head for simplicity.  clear would have been a green on the top head and the rest would be red as in this indication the reds were just place holders so you would know the bulb was not out. if any light is out it's considered an improperly displayed signal and cannot be passed. and of course the signal rules on each railroad were somewhat different. that signal could probably produce about ten differant indications. neat stuff but very hard to model. 

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