Charlienassau posted:Sorry guys, no super O
Why hasn't a third party started reproducing Super O? There seems to be a lot of demand. Or, maybe there is a vendor I am not aware of?
I can almost guarantee add-on 21 inch passenger car sets to go with previously offered 4 car and 2 car sets that haven’t even shipped yet.
Perhaps Menard's might be the third party to produce SuperO track and switches?
Thanks,
Phil 
That would be nice if Menards did start making Super-O track. And even better if they do they a full line of curves and switches to make a complete track system.
rtr12 posted:That would be nice if Menards did start making Super-O track. And even better if they do they a full line of curves and switches to make a complete track system.
Yes, I am only just learning about SuperO,but see that it is only O36 max. Beautiful track, but not functional yet.
George
Super O Bob posted:Seacoast posted:Super O Bob posted:Blue Streak posted:Bob,
quit dreaming I went broke on the first two lines
I see F3s or F7s in GN, MP, T&P, SF, UP...
Gp7/9 Geeps in M&Stl, T&P, CB&Q, Rio Grande yellow stripe, and SP black widow.
You have good taste...
"Thundering out of the West on Super O track... the Rio Grande..."
Or something like that... 1957 catalog...
Super O Bob do you have a new layout of super O yet?
Yes, im building a new layout... not too exciting yet, two loops on the first phase of construction...
Nice Bob, please post photos or videos of your Super O when possible for us Super O fans. Thanks,
George S posted:rtr12 posted:That would be nice if Menards did start making Super-O track. And even better if they do they a full line of curves and switches to make a complete track system.
Yes, I am only just learning about SuperO,but see that it is only O36 max. Beautiful track, but not functional yet.
George
I don't know a lot about it either, but I have heard there was a very limited selection of track pieces available when it was being made. Some folks here use it and it is very nice looking track.
I would venture to guess that Lionel made very little profit on Super O back in the day, given the manufacturing costs and labor needed to assemble Super O vs. tubular.
Rusty
Rusty Traque posted:I would venture to guess that Lionel made very little profit on Super O back in the day, given the manufacturing costs and labor needed to assemble Super O vs. tubular.
Rusty
Yeah but that was then when nothing was selling, and anything new had a hard mountain to climb.
as for what's in the new catalog, my guess is there will lots of trains.
Its funny how this new catalog 'wish list' post turned into the remake SuperOTrack post that we keep getting about every year. I had nothing to do with this one!
On my new Layout, I was tempted to just use a Ross or Gargraves track, but 'GargravesBob' just doesnt have the ring and RossBob sounds like some guy from the Deep South.
So I stuck with Super O on the new layout!
Can't wait for you guys to get this "super O track thing" pushed through at Lionel.
I'll manufacture my own line of replacement rollers to sell, as folks starting slicing them in half
A slew of painfully expensive locomotives
RickO posted:Can't wait for you guys to get this "super O track thing" pushed through at Lionel.
I'll manufacture my own line of replacement rollers to sell, as folks starting slicing them in half
ok, here it goes! Now that this is FULLY a SUPEROTRACK post...
"Rollers are not impacted by SuperOTrack." This is spoken from the Lord of SuperO Himself...
I have run for YEARS on SuperO and have had many friends over for 10hour operating sessions, not one roller was ever damaged by my Super O. Many Forum guys will chime in here and testify...
The wives-tail of the damaged rollers are from a DIRTY (not cleaned periodically) center rail, which causes sparking arcing which will damage rollers (on any track system). We tend to look at the thin super O center rail and get an image about it slicing the roller.... However soft copper is not too good at slicing hardened steel.
I keep my track clean and shiny. I have never sliced a roller. I have run on SuperO for 51 years.
There are plenty of sliced rollers in the shape of tubular track under engines in junk boxes at shows... just take a look at some of them...
Sliced Rollers are from running on dirty track...
I have been fantasizing about a New Lionel Yellowstone. This fueled by the AC9 reissue, maybe they will make another shell for this as an accurate Yellowstone, and produce both? It seems like they could use the same guts from an AC9...
Nothing would make me happier than a Lionel DM&IR Yellowstone! Have to wait till Wed to see...
Trying my best to get this back to the original topic.
I have given up trying to find a DM&IR EM1 that lionel did a few years back... Anyone have one for sale?
Putnam Division posted:A replay and modification of all the sets from 60 years ago.
No magnatraction and AC motors...all can motors with traction tires. All sets with sound.
O27 sets have LionChief or LionChief Plus.
SuperO is re-introduced with wider curve radii and switches.
The O gauge and SuperO sets all have Legacy.
All accessories and operating cars are command controlled.Now that would be a show-stopper!
Peter
BTW......I've been home most of the week rehabing my L knee surgery. I think I have inhaled too much scented MegaSteam!
I WISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel better Peter
Maybe there will the green Alcos with matching passenger cars plus a Western Maryland 4-8-4. Hopefully some new PWC or conventional classics items as well.
Terrance
When is the catalogue going on line? I get lost in the Lionel website.
I think on Wednesday
Wednesday 9am EST
Light Mikes, AC9's SD40's SD60Ms the fabled flat back or theater obs car everyone has been wanting. S2 Electrics, mill gondolas to name a few
What ??? New Super O track --- I'm in 
Matt Makens posted:Light Mikes, AC9's SD40's SD60Ms the fabled flat back or theater obs car everyone has been wanting. S2 Electrics, mill gondolas to name a few
U da man! I will be all over those S2's... could you elaborate on the passenger car offerings please?
I cannot
You wouldn't possibly get a matching passenger car set for an engine in the same catalog, would you?
Wow! Super O track! Just found this ad (I think) from a Plassic Toy Trains mag from the late 90s in the "Plassified" section:
"Lionel “Super-O” trackage: Remember your first acid trip? What is it with those center rail ties? Call
Baba Ram Rail now for spiritual assistance if you think handsome and prohibitively expensive toy trains
should roll over outlandish trackage conceived by Salvador Dali. Call BR Rail (301)372-7362
Hmm...must admit I like Super O - have many pieces of it, but no acid...
Matt Makens posted:Light Mikes, AC9's SD40's SD60Ms the fabled flat back or theater obs car everyone has been wanting. S2 Electrics, mill gondolas to name a few
What do you mean by Light Mikes?
Lionel “Super-O” Baba Ram Rail
This is so funny... maybe its the spell cast by the shape of the ties...
Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
Super O Bob posted:Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
How many Mikados do we need? Unless it looks like Frisco 1522 or Southern 4501 design. The last issues of Lionel Mikados don't match the engine.
wrawroacx posted:Super O Bob posted:Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
How many Mikados do we need? Unless it looks like Frisco 1522 or Southern 4501 design. The last issues of Lionel Mikados don't match the engine.
1522 was a Mountain, not a Mike. The Frisco had two classes of Light Mikes, the 4000s--which were genuine USRA Light Mikados--and the 4100s--which were designed and built at the same time as the 1500-class Mountains and shared many features, including cabs, appliances, trailing trucks, tenders, and even some boiler dimensions. The Lionel Light Mikes are good matches for the 4000s, but none of the Lionel engines really reflects the 4100s (and so both are "misnumbered," if one cares about such things).
The original Lionel offering--the 4100--is a repaint of their very accurate Southern engine. The more recent 4126 (I believe) is a USRA Heavy Mike and isn't really very much like either class.
Really, there were so few sets and variations back then compared to what is done now. I think that each '57 set ought to be duplicated in at least 2 or 3 variations of NH livery -- McGinnis, cranberry, olive green, whatever. And there ought to be a stable of '57 die cast cars to go with them.
Gerry
wrawroacx posted:How many Mikados do we need?
Tell me about it
Lionel must be short on ideas. Theres probably still a few light mikes on the shelves from the previous offering.
Theres certainly alot of "heavy Mikes" left because of the $1000 price tag, we may see blowouts on these when the new light mikes arrive.....for $1200.
Its the same cycle over and over Mohawks, Berks, and Mikes. Wheres the rehash of that "highly detailed" hudson or the CCII Niagara from 15 years ago?
We've had 4 or more offerings of Mohawks, Berks, and Mikes, since then.
Here’s my semi-annual pitch to Lionel from the PW/conventional crowd. We all know they ditched the Conventional Classics line and probably aren’t going to see it ever come back in those numbers. And the so-called PW-inspired stuff in the last few catalogs isn’t very, uh, inspiring.
I’d like to see Lionel make one PW remake each catalog. For example, issue an F3 remake and pair it with some rolling stock to make a PW set. Use the F3 over in different road names and change up the set cars. Then move on to another loco and so on.
As I was saying even one per catalog works for me!
What it looks like from Lionel's Facebook is a pre-war reproduction.
George S posted:Charlienassau posted:Sorry guys, no super O
Why hasn't a third party started reproducing Super O? There seems to be a lot of demand. Or, maybe there is a vendor I am not aware of?
Maybe Menards should take action and produce it!!!
Yes - definitely an SP SC-9 2-8-8-4 (the classiest articulated of all time); I have the TMCC version.
The TMCC version is the original coal-burning configuration; I wonder - but I greatly doubt - if the next one will be the later oil-burning configuration? Same locos, but modified. Nah - that changed lots of piping on the loco, plus they got new - not modified - tenders. That would men - gasp! - new tooling!
Still, hope it's true. Buy it? Not if it's just electronics and smoking bells. True oil-burning version with accurate changes? Probably not.
Probably.
johnstrains posted:Here’s my semi-annual pitch to Lionel from the PW/conventional crowd. We all know they ditched the Conventional Classics line and probably aren’t going to see it ever come back in those numbers. And the so-called PW-inspired stuff in the last few catalogs isn’t very, uh, inspiring.
I’d like to see Lionel make one PW remake each catalog. For example, issue an F3 remake and pair it with some rolling stock to make a PW set. Use the F3 over in different road names and change up the set cars. Then move on to another loco and so on.
As I was saying even one per catalog works for me!
That would be fantastic! But, you will have to shout this request out really loud, or you will be drowned out by the roar of your fellow forumites requesting big dollar, big radius, rats nest of wiring locos.
Light mikes guys. More. Light. Mikes.
OK....call me dumb...but what is different with Super O track?????????
palallin posted:wrawroacx posted:Super O Bob posted:Light mikes would be Light Mikados, as opposed to the recent heavy mikados, which have a bigger diameter boiler appearance, but i have not compared 1 to 1, but i was told running gear in model was same.
How many Mikados do we need? Unless it looks like Frisco 1522 or Southern 4501 design. The last issues of Lionel Mikados don't match the engine.
1522 was a Mountain, not a Mike. The Frisco had two classes of Light Mikes, the 4000s--which were genuine USRA Light Mikados--and the 4100s--which were designed and built at the same time as the 1500-class Mountains and shared many features, including cabs, appliances, trailing trucks, tenders, and even some boiler dimensions. The Lionel Light Mikes are good matches for the 4000s, but none of the Lionel engines really reflects the 4100s (and so both are "misnumbered," if one cares about such things).
The original Lionel offering--the 4100--is a repaint of their very accurate Southern engine. The more recent 4126 (I believe) is a USRA Heavy Mike and isn't really very much like either class.
Sorry I messed up on. I took first glance and thought it was a Mikado because it resembles it. By the way, I own the Lionel SP AC-9 from 2003 and I will never part from it. The engine detail is superb. The look is beautiful and the whistle in my opinion was the best sounding whistle Lionel ever did outside of the Lionel Vision Big Boy Whistle.
