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Just got an email from lionel promoting there new polar exspress ft engine and streamline passenger cars. Couldn't they have waited and and added lionchief or lionchief plus to the set. Seems  like a missed oportunity for the end user. Hope they offer the ft diesels in a variety of road names with the lionchief plus system the next go round. Are you listening lionel! Hint hint!
Originally Posted by Lionelzwl2012:
For those of you interested I emailed mike reagan about the hudson and pacific engines. He told me they were going to be the semie scale ones that were tmcc command and command ready anouced in 99 and delivered in 2000.
I asked because the hudson in the brocher looked different than the one jaydon was demoing in the trainworld video.
This is a big deal to me at least in my pre order desicion.

Interesting, I have 3 of these I run on my layout.   2 with TMCC and one Traditional I upgraded.  The Gray NYC Hudson is very similar to the PW 2046/56.  Great sounds and pulling power.  The Hudson pulls 5 of the K-Line Heavy Weight Passenger cars, and is a constant on the layout.

I paid $164 new for the TRAD, and $284 for the TMCC Hudson back in 2000 and 2001 when they were being blown out.  MSRP was $499 for TMCC at the time.  G

Has anyone seen these yet??

 

How does the RS-3  compare to the WBB offering/?

 

What sells me is the Lionchief and the Trainsounds. My son many times would try to run 2 engines on the same line.                    This feature alone will make it a lot of fun for my son to run without crashing one engine into another.

I thought I read somewhere that the Hudson and Pacific were old tooling, and that the Mikado was the only brand new tooling out?  I would buy a Hudson and Pacific in a heartbeat if they were as nicely detailed as this one is.  I was truly impressed with the running gear and molded in detail on the locomotive.  It also has flickering firebox and crew!  I may have to go to my storage locker to get a transformer to fire it up!

John, both the Hudson and Pacific also have the flickering firebox.  I also seem to recall discussion point that the Mike is new or newer, but I cannot confirm.   Comparing the pics above to my actual models, the Mike looks better detailed, or at least the cast-in details are better defined.   The running gear is more complex on the Mike.

Originally Posted by tackindy:

I thought I read somewhere that the Hudson and Pacific were old tooling, and that the Mikado was the only brand new tooling out?

The Pacific is based on the postwar 2055 pretty much an exact copy, the Hudson is an improved design based on the postwar 2046.  The Mikado is relatively new design and tooling, having been introduced several years ago.

 

In my opinion, the Mikado is the best looking of the lot, with the Hudson not too far behind.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by tackindy:

I thought I read somewhere that the Hudson and Pacific were old tooling, and that the Mikado was the only brand new tooling out?

The Pacific is based on the postwar 2055 pretty much an exact copy, the Hudson is an improved design based on the postwar 2046.  The Mikado is relatively new design and tooling, having been introduced several years ago.

 

In my opinion, the Mikado is the best looking of the lot, with the Hudson not too far behind.

 

Rusty

I agree!  I wasn't really interested in the Lionchief until I saw a picture of the GN's paint scheme and heard it was something called "Lionchief Plus" and also saw the detail on the Mikado.  After that, I figured for $315 I'd give it a try.  It looks really good!  You could tell immediately the detailing molded in was much better than older Lionel engines.  While the boiler front is still "old school" looking, it has a lot of added detail such as the handlebars, bell, whistle, generator, and a GREAT looking set of running gear.   

I had one of each of the new Lion-Chief's on backorder and all three arrived in the last 3 weeks.

 

WOW

 

Lionel really did a great job. For the $ it is really worth it.

 

My 10 year old figured it out real fast.

 

It is really user friendly and loads of fun.

 

Since we like to have kids over to get them "infected" in the train hobby the kids take to it like video games I really think this is a home run for lionel!!!!!

You can bet that Blomberg trucks on the Alcos will -assuredly- kill any chance of

me ordering one. Let's be careful about "targets"; there are many outside the bull's

eye who dabble in the off-target sale. Especially with a product line as potentially

value-rich as LionChief.

 

The Camelback - a great model - will be bought. By non-targeted me. Blomberg RS-3 (and I have a couple of old ones - tough; appealing body shells; if woefully odd in the pilots) - no way.

 

I guess there is a Blomberg quota - L removed them from the GM&O GP-30 (Yay!) and put them on the Alco RS-3 (Feh!). 

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I think the concept of the LC+ is great and a friends ran great when he allowed me to test drive it prior to buying. Unfortunately, my two didn't work out....First Mikado arrived totally DOA. Replacement to #1 arrived and ran beautifully...for about 2 days....after about 2 days, the motor seized up (had been properly lubricated, pulling no more than 5 MTH RK cars etc) then would not run...Sent it back and await the refund to come through on my card. That was my adventure into LC+....probably won't do it again. What a disappointment, I was really impressed (initially at least...) with these and was really looking forward to having one. 

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