Lionel 2014 Preview Catalog

Thanks Charlie.

Charlie you are a gem to always keep us informed, while respecting the wishes of your supplier. Thanks for the heads up about the release date for the new catalog.

I was told back in February that there were BIG changes coming from Lionel and this sure has played out. Let's all hope that these changes with give us the best Lionel ever.

Sounds like Lionel is at least trying to listen. 

Their Marketing guy, Mike Phillips spent some time with our IT guy and alot was accoplished. I am looking forward to the day when we go live with our new inventory control system and have "real time" data. 

THANK GOD  for both Lionel management and the hobby shop owners comming up with an mth product locator clone! You don't realize how POWERFUL a tool that is to both the consumers and store owners.

For those store owners who refuse to get on board you don't realize the easier $$ that can be made!

A big hear hear for product locator.  I have bought MTH items which I would never have found the old fashioned way.  LIONEL™ going that route would be a big deal for me since 80% of what I buy is the big L.

Charlie,

Eveyone seems to be assuming that your statement "new inventory control system and have "real time" data" references a Lionel specific dealer-wide system.

Is that what you're talking about or do you mean system for your store's use only?

Or it could be giving dealers real time access to Lionel's on hand inventory of products and parts as well as current shipping status

Thank you for the info. In Germany, many businesses are run by "Mittlestand" meaning a non-adversarial approach to common issues by all parties. We need this in the USA, where our habit in many instances is a shoot-out at the OK corral, with a lot of wasted time, money and energy. So, Lionel sitting down with a big seller and working through common issues is wonderful.
 

I saw something on the inter-web and it looks like the cover of the 2014 catalog has a New Haven Little Joe (EP-5) on the cover.

Stu

I believe what you saw was the 2014 Lionel Calendar. I have one and the Little Joe is on the cover of the calendar.

Upon further review, I think you're right.  Sorry for the false alarm.

Stu

My thoughts exactly!  Charlie, thanks for your contributions to the forum.

Hoping they throw a few bones to those of us wanting some more Conventional Classics/PWC type items.

Thanks for the news on the ’14 preview.

There are new road names for one of their popular diesels.

I sure hope us Lionel Railroader Club members get our catalog in a timely manner.

If so inclined would one be able to preorder from this 2014 preview catalog?

Yes you can preorder. In fact if I recall correctly Lionel has stated they will only make the amount that has been ordered. So if you really want it better order in advance or chance getting one from a store that order extra ones.

I guess TrainWorld didn't get the memo? They posted this on Facebook.

Thank You Charlie, I will make a point to check out your web site locator. Will it be ready for the Christmas season?

can anyone identify what the steamer is?

Look's like a 9000 Class 4-12-2.

Thanks, Charlie & Chris!

It says 2013 on the picture posted. 

Yes Fall 2013 would be correct.

Thats probably the point, theres plenty of those still on the shelves, especially the sharks. I saw the sharks going for $455 at Hobby Station.

Items that do not "move" typically roll over into the next catalog.

No reason for Trainworld to hide the cover, nuthin new on it.

Soooo....

What's in the catalog Charlie???

If they want the item to move quickly, then they need to make small amounts in new road numbers each year.

Andrew

It would be nice if they had better pictures of the E8s that more accurately describe what they claim them to be.

Will they use this catalog to show the finished locomotives and freight cars that were just concept art in the Signature Catalog?

Will the Lionel marketing team make corrections?

Andrew

Looks like maybe they're going back to the "landscape" catalog format? Let's hope it's not just a flyer! 

As long as there's a decent Amtrak engine in this catalog, I'll be happy.

I hope there is some new items that actually look interesting. Some new VL locomotives?

i hope there is a 4014 in there  I hope, I hope .

Specifically. Have the finished versions of the Auto Rack paint schemes been photographed for this catalog?

Andrew

I would like to see some Vision line scale rolling stock with sound again!

Hopefully some conventional classics sets in the 2014 preview, didn't the Walthers site also post a day prior to the catalog release?

LEAKS!!! WE NEED LEAKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This Milwaukee Road and Northern Pacific addict needs to know what is coming out!   Charlie you could always be the Edward Snowden of the O Gauge world and release the Lionel catalog 3/4 days early!  If you need to flee from Lionel's wrath we could help you flee to Canada!  

Those of us who are train addicts...are in dire straights! Please leak some product knowledge!! 

WOW Charlie, this is just like those Saturday movies we had as kids which ended on a cliff hanger so you HAD to come back next week. WOW, this is SO exciting. 

On a more serious note, great to have the inventory online for ordering.

Gerry

There will be a BIG leak on Wednesday...

Rusty

All this talk of leaks. Now I have to go down the hall.

If you have a local Lionel dealer go there if you can't wait till Wednesday. The dealers have them for viewing now. Take homes have not arrived yet.

Rusty Traque: Snowden is OK but let's hope he doesn't become "Chelsea"  Manning! 

Seriously, what we need is someone on the Forum who works for the NSA; he will know all the details of the new catalog for sure. 

Wonderful surprises await you!  

Great Alan!

I guess they found out how to keep this moron in suspense!

I vote for at least a little leak, dribble or something......

no count down clock as of this posting.

No leaks... and no shortage of teases either!!!

Leave it up to a Lionel catalog to turn a bunch of us older folks into young kids-before-Christmas again!!!  Such anticipation... 

David

It is just plain mean!

I really hope it is worth the wait as I will soon have money to buy from this catalog!

(PRR Legacy Steam and Diesel & maybe some new accessories)

I hope the LCS stuff is there too!

Yes, Same here!!!!!

But I think they will be giving this series a rest for a bit....Frankly, I am getting out of the scale stuff, and sticking with finishing my collection of PWC/CC series!!!!!!!!!

Where is Eric Snowden when we really need him?

Well I hope there is not to much in there, I just blew a big wad on third rails new plastic RDC cars, some B&O and a PRSL car, ouch! Missed the fist time around not this time. Saw theses ladies every day.

Youlza

JohnP

I'm hoping to be surprised with some new and exciting Flyer offerings.

But, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not...

Rusty

Has anything from "Big L's" 2012 catalogue shipped yet?

I'd list a list of things I want to see... but I have a Freshman in college this year... and one the year after that... and one two years later...

Jon

I was just making a generalization.  I have no idea what might be in the new catalog.

Perhaps we'll see the Norfolk Southern SD60-style locomotive done up in the Veterans blue/black with red/white ribbon paint scheme?  That's a natural, and it would be an instant sell-out on pre-orders alone! 

David

Doesn't appear to be a Cab Forward as I would think it would be on the front cover.

I'll believe this when pigs fly. Good sense of humor Allan.

Gerry

No, Gerry, I'm telling the truth.  I really have no idea what's in the new catalog.  I kind of enjoy being surprised and looking forward to the real thing when it's released.

I saw the catalog yesterday at the LHS.

Bill

Oh, and I paged through it of course.

Bill

They need a Gomez Addams set.  A big dollar train which goes 6 feet down the tracks and blows up!

I just have to be patient......no LHS anymore.....

Peter

I predict that it will contain trains! 

Will this be the normal release time of the Lionel catalog every year?

Here is what I saw:

Weathered Sharknoses-PRR, B&O

Weathered 4-12-2

Unpainted J, GS-2 or 4, 4-12-2, and Mohawk

Some more GP30's

N&W J 611

Seperate sale Texas Special, and PRR F3's from the Neil Young series

UP F3's from NY series

Christmas Story 30 yr ann. boxcar

Where the wild things are boxcar, and one other boxcar that was on the shipping list but not in the catalog.

Bill

Google Lionel weathered sharknose finds:

B&O LEGACY Sharknose AA - Weathered (Pwd A #855, Dmy A #857). 6-81597

PRR LEGACY Sharknose AA - Weathered (Pwr A #2020A, Dmy A #2021A). 6-81600

Even though I model the Chessie/CSX I would pre-order that unit in a heartbeat.  Nice call!

I am just asking, if this catalog will go online in the morning, why hasn't LIONEL got a count down clock?

I just went to the site and saw no mention of this catalog coming out in the morning 9/11/13 ????????

Here it is...

Rusty

I am just asking, if this catalog will go online in the morning, why hasn't LIONEL got a count down clock?

Been reading your replys as I am in Vegas now and since we lost the phone app. can't get back that much. Many changes coming to Lionel, as for the clock, i don't know. But, expect a change in the web site. Lionel will be going back to releasing thier catalogs (AF, RTR and Sign,) all at the same time and back to Feb. instead of March/April. I expect we will see the Fall catalog return and not just as a after thought. Yes this catalog includes the roll out of the new tablet control system. That is the really big news in it. More to follow.

Welcome back Chris! (my son from his honeymoon) He missed the Lionel visit for his new wife! :-)

I figure this one will be worth about 4 pages of moaning and groaning. Not really a winner.

Glad I didn't buy the 611 set.  Maybe I'll spring for the engine only.  LOL!

Rusty: Loved the shot from Metropolis!

All the same stuff they can't sell, yawn.

What makes them think weathering locos is going to help them sell? If the weathering looks anything like Lionels  past attempts that look like grey primer overspray..........good luck......blowouts anyone??

I just hope they fix the back steps on the GP-30 and of course produce them in a road name I want!

RickO, I asked the same exact question.

Ah yes but they have Harry Heinke weathering them and as he is such a recognized artist they are going to charge a few hundred extra dollars for his weathering job.

I think the common theme in this catalog is Lionel can't get the passenger cars made so they will sell all the set engines as separate sale.

NSBILL

Do you remember what the road names were on the new GP-30's ?

Thanks

The only one I remember is the NS one, it has the horsehead logo. 

Bill

I sure hope the catalog is up before dawn so I can be late for work.

Did I see GP30 mentioned somewhere.............................

I'd sure like to see the KCS and B&O GP30's presented!

Oh, I almost forgot..............the C&O GP30's for a friend too! 

Regards,

Swafford

Bill was this NS a high hood or a low hood?????

Ron

Who Hoo!!!   I will be saving tons of money this year!

I think I'll get the weathered 4-12-2 even though I already bought one last year given if the weathering looks good.  I think the features on the 4-12-2 (steam whistle) and blow down effects make it a good buy.  Too bad no mention of VL locos.  Whatever happened to this rumored VL Big Boy coming out?

If people think Lionel is going to have blow outs on their products, you should think again.  I don't think there will be blowouts anymore given the fact that Lionel now will only make to order and will not produce extra given that their cash flow is tight. 

It would be great if in this catalog they included a die-cast body Three-bay, open-top Hopper with coal load in the correct Burlington Northern paint scheme, road number, and it must have die-cast roller-bearing trucks. The previous release of a BN open-top hopper had the paint scheme of a smaller, older hopper with journal bearing trucks.

An O Scale Chessie System Three-Bay Open-Top Hopper with coal for C&O, B&O, WM would be great, since there have been enough O scale sized Chessie System diesels made in the past 10 years to match the cars.

Andrew

What time will the new catalog be available tomorrow?  LOCOMOTION

What brand of printer are you using?

I can't wait to see it!

Best wishes to Chris and his bride.

Gerry

Low hood.

Okay, where's the catalog? Or was this all an elaborate joke?

Typically happens around 11am.

Quick Casey, it is not a Hoax because I saw the catalog a couple days ago. But what is in it is a joke.

For you guys expecting a Vision product there is a Vision line engine in there. Oh wait it is the Vision line Pennsy Centipede's from two years ago.

As Rick O stated, Ho Hum, all the stuff they haven't been able to sell.

Looks like a garage sale with MSRP pricing.

Thought possibly Nassau Hobby would have it on their site but not there either. Still waiting for Lionel site to get their act together and post it. While they use China manufacturing as reason for missing scheduled deliveries wonder why they can't have catalog ready to go on line in timely fashion on day scheduled as do other companies. (Perhaps they're using Chinese for webhosting, too?) Perhaps, Charlie, rather than relying on assistance from Lionel's itt staff for advice on your Nassau Hobby site, they should ask your web developer for assistance on their Lionel.com site.

Wait till you see the pricing on the VL big boy. According to my LHS it will closer to $3000.00 then $2000.00. Although he did sell over 30 of the SF 2-10-10-2. 

So Charlie, what time today, or maybe another Wednesday, are you and LIONEL going live with this new catalog ??????

Perhaps the IT guy called off today..?

im told the vl big boy is not in the catalog.

I'm not sure how this can be called a 2014 preview catalog if all that is in it is what is posted above, most items being recataloged stuff.

Also forum says GP30, but my LHS says actually are GP35.  So I'm waiting for it to go online to tell who is right...

Well, the front of the catalog is titled "2013 Fall catalog" So I'm not sure how much 2014 product it will contain.

ok, see there you go.  I dont know who to believe!  Even I was told a different title!

Did you see what the title of this post is?  "Lionel 2014 Preview Catalog"

No catalog posting as of yet, just checked.

There isn't a Big Boy in there. The only "new" steam is some of the unpainted steamers, the J, GS-2/4, Mohawk, and 4-12-2. And there is a separate sale 611 J.

Bill

"LHS" is a relative term.  Some of us are just fortunate enough where one of our LHS's also happens to be a VERY large train dealer whose customer base is not that "local". 

For the very successful train dealers, selling 30 or so units of a very expensive locomotive is as common as most of us opening a car door every day.  Having said that though, everyone is having a challenging 2013 -- as witnessed by the number of "sales" going on throughout the entire year.

David

Where the preview on the lionel site?

Lionel has clearly had issues coordinating the completion of various set components.  I can think of several sets where the locomotives have been ready for MONTHS now, but a variety of rolling stock haven't even made it to the factory floor yet.  Crazy!

It's only natural that Lionel now would want to sell stuff that's essentially collecting dust in factory storage, but it does raise the question... How many do they sell ala carte vs. "save" for customers who pre-ordered the entire sets?  Gotta be a tricky scenario... and certainly not something they intended to manage at this stage of the game.

David

Seems like the biggest news for the new catalog is not the trains but the Legacy LCS system.

6-81499  LCS Power Supply with DB9 Cable  
6-81502  LCS Sensor Track 10ft Cable 
6-81500  LCS Sensor Track 1ft Cable
6-81503  LCS Sensor Track 20ft Cable 
6-81501  LCS Sensor Track 3ft Cable
6-81325  LCS WiFi Module
6-81294  LEGACY LCS SensorTrack

Perhaps Lionel's management looked at the calendar and decided that the 12th anniversary of 9/11 wasn't such a good day to release canes catalog. As for me, tomorrow will be fine.

Dave

FWIW, if you drill down far enough on the Legacy part of Lionel's site, you will find a shot of 4014.

We've heard this type of thing time and time again.  And each time it's been proven WRONG.  Bottom line... just like gravity, ya can't fight the laws of market dynamics.  Until Lionel TRULY adopts a build-to-order strategy based on end-consumer reservations -- not dealer orders, there will always be blow-outs of some type.

Perfect example... it wasn't THAT long ago, that folks said we saw the last of the blow-outs earlier this year... and guess what?  Lionel is currently blowing out Shays and F3/F7 locomotive sets at pretty good prices.  Granted, the Shays and F3's weren't BTO items.  But all BTO does is move the "risk" further into the distribution chain -- perhaps to the large dealers and distributors.  If they ONLY order based on firm consumer reservations, then blow-outs will be scarce.  But if dealers/distributors order based on what they "think" consumers will buy... then Bang!  We're pretty much where we are today... except dealers will calling the shots on blow-outs instead of Lionel's warehouse in NC.

Now... hopefully, we'll be able to see this new catalog soon, if Lionel ever posts the darn thing on their website today.    It's 12 Noon as I finish typing this post.

David

I thought for sure while I was typing the above post, Lionel would prove me wrong and post their new "preview catalog".

But I guess the marketing folks are following in the illustrious example of the online shipping schedule... namely, we'll see the stuff when it finally arrives.  Dates are all meaningless -- even for the catalogs!!!  

Maybe I'll drive to the LHS and look at it there!!! 

David

Thanks for the kind words for Adam, our IT guy. We had hoped the files would be available to post the catalog but Lionel has delayed us. Last night we got this update.

Please note the 2013 Fall Catalog will not go live on Lionel’s website until Friday  9/13 at 9:00 a.m. 

When I orginally posted this thread I did not see the catalog until the next day for the first time. Usally we do have some new preview engine. The big news is the roll out of the LCS line and that is the main focus. You are correct and it does say 2013 on it. This tablet based control system is ready for it's big roll out. As soon as we get the download from Lionel, we will post it along with the pre-order pricing.

That's not entirely true.  It could be that the dealers themselves ordered extra in speculation of demand and when there isn't any, they're forced to blow it out.  I seriously doubt Lionel as a company takes irrational business gambles like that with their limited cash.

Charlie, thanks the update!  It will be nice to see LCS in action beyond just running a simple loop of track.  I seem to recall watching Trainworld's "chef of the future" video that Lionel will have this demo'ing at York on a 12x7 layout.  Should be interesting to see... but what about the larger display layout?  Doesn't Lionel bring that to York anymore?

OK everyone... get back to work now!!! 

David

I wished I worked for Lionel!  But if you've been keeping up with this board and news around the Internet, it's certainly a high possibility this is the direction they are taking.  Furthermore, it's just very common and basic business 101 not to burn your cash flow and over produce anything unless there is a demand for it.  Lionel would return to bankruptcy if they gambled on over producing certain items based on popularity.

Well my LCCR Inside Track yesterday and inside is a article with Howard Hitchcock, questions and answers. And it answers some of our questions.

The Biggest One is on the 2014 Catalog which will be out in Jan. 2014. And a 2nd smaller catalog will be out later in the year.

"new New Vision steam locomotives and like all of our Vision products we push the envelope with new features that may be unique to Vision or even better."

According to the latest INSIDE TRACK the 2014 Signature Catalog will be released in January instead of March or April. What is suppose to be released today is a Fall 2013 Catalog.

Whatever their financial situation is now -- and NONE of us here knows it unless you're privy to insider information, I'm only commenting on recent trends.  Blow-outs have been a common part of our landscape for decades -- some years more so than others, admittedly.  But between blow-outs and individual dealer "sales" this year, I still can't buy everything that represents a "good deal" when I see it.  There's simply TOO MUCH stuff in the market right now for consumers to absorb.  And even if Lionel quickly switches to a BTO model, there's an enormous glut of existing product in the market -- not to mention the stuff that's overdue for delivery from the 2012/2013 catalogs which wasn't BTO either.

No more blow-outs???  Nah.... certainly not anytime soon.  That's for sure. 

David

That is also mentioned by Howard in the LRRC Inside Track. That there will be building to order.

Lionel updated their shipping list today. No new items are listed, except for the ones that have been noted before.

"Great mix of new items"

Charlie-  I am hoping this is true, from your opening of this post.  I am really looking forward to new engines and goodies for this train season.  I'm concerned that this catalog is just recatalog of old stuff, and breaking up some set engines.

Can you please reply with wether the catalog has brand new GP30's or GP35's as this is a conflice between this post and my LHS. Thanks...

Perhaps it should be noted that the bankruptcy years ago was only a legal maneuver done during lawsuit proceedings, and had nothing to do with profitability or how Lionel marketed trains.

Is the previously announced Legacy SP Cab Forward in this catalog?

It was announced in an email...  I think it was the blog thing I signed up for...  Said 'newly offered' or something like that...  I wish I kept that email!

Lets face it guys, whether they release this catalog today or Friday it is a garage sale catalog full of old items from years past that they can't move. My take is that they have had the engines done for some of the passenger sets for some time now but can't get the passenger cars made. So to get cash flow going they will release the engines for separate sale (ie: 611 J, Neil Young Texas Special, Neil Young Pennsy, Neil Young, UP, etc, etc). Lets face it, the inventory isn't making them any money sitting in the warehouse.

I am holding my breath to get the clear milk car from 6 years ago that is re-cataloged (not!).

Rocky Mountaineer, you are correct as the old stuff re-cataloged in this fall cataloged I suspect will undoubtably be released to the dealers at discounted pricing if any of it is to sell.

What's old is new (again).  Seems it wasn't THAT long ago that Lionel issued their big catalog around Toy Fair... and later in the year a smaller catalog followed.  I guess the new honchos have to "change it up a bit"... otherwise it looks like they're walking too closely in JC's footsteps.

As for the Vision Line comments... I guess they're dropping "subtle suggestions" in an attempt to set the mental switch that Vision Line will continue to push the pricing envelope.  Earlier in this thread, mention was made of a near-$3K price-point for the VL Big Boy.  If that's where Lionel is heading, I'm more than happy to watch from the sidelines.   Dream on, new Lionel executives. 

David

Unless Lionel is going to make sensors available for the multitude of other hobbyists that use different track systems I can't see being interested in the LCS system, so far the catalog only shows a piece of fastrack with the sensors and a lot of proprietary cabling. The sensor track also looks like it has it's own power source that needs to be plugged into a wall outlet or perhaps that is for the WiFi module I didn't get a close enough look at that item.

Highly doubt the Cab Forward is previewed here.  I guess the bigger questions will be, "Is this even a 2014 preview catalog at all?  Or is it a way to move product that's already been produced -- just with a new twist to it... like offering weathered versions of overstock inventory, more undecorated "pilot/engineering" models, and ala-carte engines for sets whose rolling stock production continues to sit in limbo?"

The information "slip" on the Cab Forward came on Lionel's blog, when they were highlighting a new set of SP passenger cars.  An early release of the article indicated the cars would look nice with the E8/E9 diesels as well an "upcoming Cab Forward".  Oops!!!    After somebody's wrists got smacked, the text was updated to just imply the cars would like nice with a variety of Lionel SP locomotives (including a Cab Forward -- with the reference to "upcoming" removed).  Regardless, I would expect that more as a 2014 catalog'd offering.  It's a unique enough offering that typically get's "cover page real-estate", and we already know what is shaping up to be a Fall 2013 catalog has two of the "weathered locomotives" gracing its front cover.

David

Expected that Lionel would lead with it's own track system, and perhaps something to follow for other big-name track companies.  I just don't know enough about LCS yet to see if it's a "good match" for exotic layouts that are typically built with the likes of Gargraves, MTH ScaleTrax, Ross, and Atlas-O track systems.  LCS may be more appropriate for modest layouts built with FasTrack.  Worth watching this space closely... that's for sure.

David

I am hoping that they release the components to use the IR sensor with other track systems as well. If not, I suppose we can just rip apart the FasTrack piece.

This was exactly my point earlier when I questioned why this post started as a '2014 Catalog Preview' and the catalog appears to be 2013 rehash.

two very different things to me...

Which we were told (earlier this year) wasn't going to happen!!!    That's probably a big reason folks thought this catalog was gonna be a "sneak preview" of stuff for 2014.  Then we heard about the built-to-order, reservation-only gibberish that also contributed to stuff for 2014.  And that may still happen NEXT YEAR.

So as we glean more information, things are coming into focus a bit more clearly.  From what we know now, the stuff appearing in this "2013 Fall Catalog" (that originally wasn't supposed to even happen) may largely be locomotives re-packaged a bit differently.  What we still don't know is WHEN this stuff will be delivered to dealers.

Quite possibly, this stuff has already arrived in the States and may be sitting on dealer shelves within a few weeks.  That could certainly be the case for the 611J.  But what about those weathered locomotives?  Who knows for sure at this point, but they too could already have been shipped overseas pending arrival in NC.  I guess we'll know more in the next week or so.

David

I think we have expected sneak peaks in the past....

Some of the Volume 2 catalogs I have on the shelf here list a next year preview.... like the 2004 link below

http://www.lionel.com/Products/Catalogs/Catalog.cfm?CatalogUID=A1A0302B-B0D0-205D-B7EC2500DA8BE2AF&PageID=389

Good thinking, Dave. You may very well be right about the release date.

But is Friday the 13th that much better?

You got a good POINT!!

Fred

Nicole

Don't even joke about that. If Lionel sees your post and delays the catalog further, it will surly bring about the end of the world.

Other then about a dozen new roads for the GP-35 not much to hang a hat on in this catalog.

Looks like Lionel is trying to make old, new again. 

I like the looks of the weathered steamers & the Centipede.   From the photo, the artist (Harry Heike) did a decent job with the UP #9000.

Not sure folks will pay the extra bucks ($1400.00 MSRP) for the work. 

The Layout control system is interesting..

Joe 

Perhaps that eventuality is what the two nuns that I was sitting next to on a train last week were discussing?

Not according to my brand new Mayan calendar...

Rusty

Not according to my brand new Mayan calendar...

 

Rusty

The Mark II "Extender."

I thought the Legacy S-2 Turbine was the end of the world?

Haven't seen the catalog yet.  Are you saying the MSRP for the weathered 4-12-2 is $1,400?

So let me get this correct...  Lionel can't sell this stuff the way they first produced it.  And now they're adding more $$$ to the transaction to pay for the weathering???    We all know MSRP's nowadays are a pipe dream, but gosh!!!  I had hoped Lionel's new crack executive crew were smarter than this.

If I'm even interested in any of these overstock items, I think I'll just wait for them to show up on Charlie Ro's SUPERSALE section of the website!!!    If not, no big deal.

David

so the world will end by an asteroid hitting us and covering the entire planet with real coal

Have perused the store copy we received today, I don't see anything re: 2014.  As was mentioned above, new paint on GP35's, the weathering on steam and the pilot models, (ala MTH engineering models) the catalog was...  well you get the picture.  It is smaller than their Christmas catalog!

Here is our link. It's a work in progress so don't jump on me too bad.

http://nassauhobby.com/Pre-Ord...l-2013-Fall-Catalog/

is the 4-12-2 really only 119.00? At that price I'll take them all.

For those who have seen the catalog, is there any S gauge in it?

Rich

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is the 4-12-2 really only 119.00? At that price I'll take them all.

 

 

I suggest that you read the link. It clearly states the pre-order price AND above it says that it is the 10% deposit you will be charged.

I figured as much...

After previewing the Lionel 2014 Preview Catalog...

..........?

..........!

..........You must be kidding? 

I was hoping the Orange/Blue folks would give me something for 2014 to take the mind off of another election year's hysteria.  Not to be.

Mike Wolf....Mike Wolf.........can you salvage the coming year for us??

Good grief, Charlie Brown.  To think that NASCARitis has come to this.

Saw catalog and was very disappointed. They will elminte

the local hobby shop owner. Don't put leftover stuff in as limited stock. Maybe Staff at York should lesson  to the people buying tne trains.

I didn't think about the Friday the 13th date. Neither date is very good. I got a look at the catalog this afternoon. I wasn't impressed. Others may be right in saying its a rehash of earlier catalog offerings. Not worth all the fuss. The catalog to be released in January may be the one everyone will be interested in. I hope so. 

Dave

how can "leftover stuff" be anything but limited in quantity?

Can any body tell me the new road names for the GP35's?

Thanks

ATSF, Alaska, B&O, C&O, MOPAC,GM&O,WM,CSX,NS, CP, BN,  GN.

Joe

We've been telling you guys it wasn't much but you made 5 pages anyway and it's not even out yet. Congrats.