Lionel 6-31742 has odyssey?

Must be a mistake, since the manual and pictorial diagram show AC motors in that unit.  You don't get Odyssey with AC motors.

 

What you describe is also normal for AC motors, it takes more to get them moving than can motors.

Yep thats typical, that set has "pullmor motors" as opposed to the "can" type motores found in most modern stuff. Pullmors don't have oddessy due to the nature of their performance. I avoid pullmor powered locos like the plague, only two speeds, fast and stop, not to mention that horrible growling.

 

Having said that, alot of folks love their old fashioned operating characteristics.

 

I was raised on great slow speed  H.O. locomotives with can motors and heavy flywheels so I can't appreciate pullmors.

The icon is incorrect, you need to click on "features" for the full product description.

 

http://www.lionel.com/Products...neID=&CatalogId=

Thank you all! great information to know.

If you scroll the features icons it does show Oddessy listed in the features.  I have a similar scenario with a pair of Chessie SD9s that were catalogued as having Oddyssey, but have pullmors, so no Oddyssey.  Doesn't bother me, as it shouldn't you I think, because first generation Oddyssey engines have a noticeable jump when shifting gears, so to speak.  There is a phrase for it used here escapes me. 

 But another thing is puzzling.  You have the entire ABBA set?  And one B unit is a unit with Legacy superbass?  Are you mixing apples with oranges? 

As a side note, a properly broken in and maintained pullmor is a beautiful thing.  Take a day, run it at different speeds, forward and reverse, slowly increasing the load as you go.  Lubricate it properly with good oil including the insides of the motor by the shaft.  It will crawl like a baby and pull like a champ forever.  Break it in right and it will serve you well.  The only rough performing pullmors I've had are in the aforementioned Chessie SD9s.  To me, those engines are a symbol of a company in flux, they are a GP7 body with 6 wheel trucks, and rearranged insides for dc motors which were never installed, which also led to very weak sound volume.  I'm working on the sound issue, I'll live with the pullmors.  Your scenario may be similar to mine.

William, thank you for the information.

 

On your ABBA question. The initial set and add ons are from 2005, and I have all of them. The non powered B, the two passenger cars, and the StationSounds Diner. In 2008 Lionel actually created a few non powered Legacy B units with Legacy Railsounds to match these PWC sets (I have 6-34544). When I create the Lash-up in my Legacy remote I can actually choose which engine to use for sounds (I think its called masking from 1.3 or 1.4) So I have a Powered A, non powered B legacy Railsounds, non powered B, and non powered A with Railsounds 4

 

The Legacy Super Bass B-unit sounds amazing.  

Yeah, I bet that rocks.  Interesting you can blend a Legacy dummy in with a TMCC lashup.  So, you have 1 powered unit with a single pullmor in the quad lashup, ok.  Break it in right and you'll never look back.  1st generation Oddyssey is annoying to be honest, if you have level track and don't need it. 

I believe the powered A has dual motors. All for the better, and I will your advice about breaking it in. I will try and get a video posted on my Super Chief as well. Thank you again Matt

You can pull a house with double pullmors.  I have a Wabash F3 set.  Oil the motors then break them in for a day.  Then top off the oil and run them hard with a load, say 20 cars, next day, and then kick back and enjoy.  Your pullmor motors will run like a .... awesome Lionel model diesel, for a long, long time.

The manual for the Superbass B Units states that you can use it with any conventional postwar train too and enjoy the sounds.