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Does anyone else have pics of other road names besides UP? I would like to see if there are differences in details. I was told by lionel at York that each road name had different details. So for example the UP have roof details while the other road names won't but have something else.

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Well, frankly, I would think York would have been the place to see other models.  

 

What I do know is that the catalog is no help: the roof equipment on the UP version is not like in the catalog.  I have been told that the PRR versions have the antenna shown in the 2013 catalog.  All the other E9s in the 2013 and 2014 catalogs seem to have the same roof detail, but then - remember that my UP versions differed some.  I was surprised when I iopened mine up.

 

About six weeks ago or so something like that, someone posted a video to a link that Lionel put out their "forthcoming" (at the time) E9s - it had various ones shown.  You might search for that. 

Here's what I would like to know... for those of you who own both the new Lionel models and the old K-Line versions:  Do the new Lionels have prototypically correct 36" wheels as used on the real E-units, or are they the 40-42" wheels that were used on almost all other diesels?

 

I've looked at the photos posted so far, and the wheels and trucks appear taller than scale.  Some of this may be the 3-rail flanges.  But unless I see the units in person, or a side-by-side photo with the K-Lines, it's hard to say.

 

BTW Lionel's parts website calls for a 0.625" traction tire, just like a GP-9.  Which reinforces my suspicion that the wheels are too large...  Can anyone mic their E9 wheels and tell us for sure?

As close as I can measure, the wheels on mine appear to be 1 inch diameter across the flanges at their very widest (farthest inside) and 13/16 across where they roll on the track, making them a scale 39 inches diameter.  36 inches would be 3/4 inch, so they appear to be 3 inches too large.  May be they are a bit too large, but the units look fine to me as to height, but that is often something a person has to judge for themselves. 

Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

As close as I can measure, the wheels on mine appear to be 1 inch diameter across the flanges at their very widest (farthest inside) and 13/16 across where they roll on the track, making them a scale 39 inches diameter.  36 inches would be 3/4 inch, so they appear to be 3 inches too large.  May be they are a bit too large, but the units look fine to me as to height, but that is often something a person has to judge for themselves. 

Real railroad wheels are NOT measured "across the flanges", but across the tread of the wheel. Thus, the wheels on an "E" type locomotive (ANY "E" type) should be NO LARGER than 38 inches in diameter, for Rock Island and DL&W units, while all the rest of the railroad "E" type units had 36 inch diameter wheels. 

 

Freight units of the earlier era, all had 40 inch diameter. Now modern, AC traction units had/have 42 inch and 45 inch diameter wheels.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

As close as I can measure, the wheels on mine appear to be 1 inch diameter across the flanges at their very widest (farthest inside) and 13/16 across where they roll on the track, making them a scale 39 inches diameter.  36 inches would be 3/4 inch, so they appear to be 3 inches too large.  May be they are a bit too large, but the units look fine to me as to height, but that is often something a person has to judge for themselves. 

Real railroad wheels are NOT measured "across the flanges" . . . 

 

Freight units of the earlier era, all had 40 inch diameter. Now modern, AC traction units had/have 42 inch and 45 inch diameter wheels.

Yeah, I know that, and my refernece books on UP say their E9s had 36" wheels, but I wanted to be clear about what and how I measured the wheels on mine in my post above, as I wasn't sure what Ted wanted.  The rolling diameter of the wheels on mine were just a tad less than a scale 40 inches - my micrometer got 39 scale inches where the rail touches the wheel, which is how I would measure them.  That's nearly 10% more than it should be but I'm okay with it as they look good.  

Given the reported "short production run" for the E9's, I was surprised to see Nicholas Smith Trains has/had them for $670, listed in their email blast of 4/19. 

 

Most of the big guns are selling them for $770-$780, then the next bump seems to be around $820-$830, with MSRP topping out at $930.

 

Although not prototypical, the Burlington's would look terrific heading up a California Zephyr!    Too bad the Burlington didn't run E9 B-units, as I really like the look of ABA or ABBA configurations with the E- and F-style of diesels.  Perhaps Lionel will do a run of B-units (powered would be ideal) for all the roadnames for which they produced AA offerings. 

 

David

Last edited by Rocky Mountaineer

We have 2 E-9s left, we can also offer OGR members free shipping on these units.

Thanks

Pat

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