Lionel SD70ace Ditch Lights

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April 1, 2013 2:18 AM

lionel sd70ace front head lites will not come on.    I have done a reset but still no lites.   lites will flash only when horn is operated.   any suggestions.

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 6:22 AM

Push the Aux 2 button.

 

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April 1, 2013 8:58 AM

tried that, no results

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 9:08 AM

Perhaps time to open it up and see what's going on.

 

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April 1, 2013 12:39 PM

The lights that flash when the horn sounds are called ditch lights.

There is an icon in the lower left corner of the screen marked on and off.

By pressing the on or off buttons, the message line at the top of the

screen will cycle thru ditch lights on, off flashing. The ditch lights can

be changed from off or on or flashig when the horn sounds.

 

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 1:36 PM

PA,

 

All the lites work except the front head lites will not stay in the on position.   Front head lites only flash when the horn is sounded!!  when I use the on and off switch on the legacy remote for the front lites no results.  any suggestions??

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 2:21 PM

For some reason, the headlight acts like it's crossed with the ditch lights.

 

Dumb question, do the ditch lights flash when you blow the horn while in motion?

 

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April 1, 2013 2:32 PM

Has someone been in this engine?  I agree with gunrunner...something seems a bit backwards based on what you are telling us.

 

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April 1, 2013 2:54 PM

Sometimes when a unit has been assigned to a consist, (Lash-up) this occurs.  If the unit,engine was part of a consist, assign it to Train 0  (TR 0).   Eng, ##, TR0, Set with the Cab 1.

 

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 3:31 PM

Good call, I had an odd issue once with lights after the engine was in an MU configuration.

 

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April 1, 2013 4:42 PM

Engine was purchased used on Ebay.  Yes ditch lights flash while in forward motion when horn is sounded

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 4:44 PM

Did you try Mike's idea?  The MU configuration may be part of the issue, getting that out of the way may be the ticket.

 

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April 1, 2013 4:51 PM

I third Mike's idea.  Give it a try.

 

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April 1, 2013 5:37 PM

Can Mike's idea be done with a legacy remote??

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 5:55 PM

Send it back to Lionel (non warranty). It sounds that someone  did a

little rewiring. Maybe the person who sold it can tell you what was

done to it.Leave it as is, its different.

 

What do the ditch lights do?

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 6:16 PM

ditch lites only flash while moving forward with the horn engaged

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 8:42 PM

On the legacy remote when I press the on and off button for the ditch lights, the ground lights go on and off.   Seems there is a wiring issue

 
 
 
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April 1, 2013 9:20 PM

Could some connectors be swapped coming from the lighting motherboard to the lights?

 

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April 2, 2013 6:46 AM

Now you add the ground lights to the mix with

the ditch lights and head lights. It sounds like

there could be  pinched wires shorting together

when the shell was put on or the Legacy  system is

sending the wrong commands to the engine.

 

When Lionel started shipping Legacy with V1.4, I had

problems turning the Cab 2 on and off and other problems

with strange engine results when pressing the touch pad

buttons.

 

Do you have another engine to try or another Legacy systen

to run your engine under?

 

 

 
 
 
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April 2, 2013 7:36 AM

This does sound strange.  Just in case there is any terminology confusion here, is there any chance that you could post a video, photograph or even a diagram that shows which lights are operating, and when?

 

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April 2, 2013 8:56 AM

Another issue that needs to be checked is that there are different reset codes for different diesels engines. R2LC, older before Legacy, boards had (16) different reset codes.  You noted a reset, which required a code associated with the specific engine, be sure it is the correct code. Wrong reset code can be an issue.  If you posted the model number, it would help with the research and trouble shooting.  You need to be sure all programming is correct before you start swapping wires. IMO.

 
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April 3, 2013 7:55 PM

The ditch lights are the problem, all the other lights function properly.   I will get the model # and post it.

 

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April 3, 2013 7:58 PM

PA,

 

I only own one Lionel Legacy Locomotive.  This is my first lionel Legacy product and I'm disappointed.

 
 
 
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April 3, 2013 8:11 PM

Originally Posted by toyspecialist:

PA,

 

I only own one Lionel Legacy Locomotive.  This is my first lionel Legacy product and I'm disappointed.

I would not be very disappointed at Lionel as you did not purchase it through a dealer.

 

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April 3, 2013 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by toyspecialist:

PA,

 

I only own one Lionel Legacy Locomotive.  This is my first lionel Legacy product and I'm disappointed.

Since it's likely that it didn't come that way, I'm not sure I'd form a judgment on Legacy from one used example that may have been tampered with.  I'd wait until you find out what the issue is.

 

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April 3, 2013 10:35 PM

John,

 

 

I'm not judging lionel, I'm just disappointed

 
 
 
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April 4, 2013 7:06 AM

I had an SD70ACe with working ditch lights a first. One of

the ditch lights would work then one light would get dim

and go out. It was returned to Lionel and they

fixed it.

 

Is it only the ditch lights with a problem?

Pressing the Ditch light on/off icon will change

the ditch light pattern but it is hard to read what

the setting shows in the strip at the top of the display.

Press the ditch on/off button and try the ditch lights.

Keep trying until you get the display you want, ditch lights on, off

flashing when horn operating.

 

 
 
 
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April 4, 2013 12:16 PM

Mike,

 

here is the model # 6-28338 to the locomotive.

 
 
 
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April 4, 2013 12:17 PM

pa,

 

did lionel charge you to repair the ditch lights??

 
 
 
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April 4, 2013 10:18 PM

The SD70ACe was still under warranty so there

was no charge.

 
 
 
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