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as you all know watching a shay run on a layout is a marvel to watch the reciprocating drive and all its various parts!

but that crankshaft has a weak point right where the double brass drive gears and the metal stud anchoring it and the piston rod  and the crankshafts flat counter weights together as in time mine literally twisted itself in two!

thanks to a windows 10 crash I lost the email of a fellow ogr member whom offered his help to you whomever you are I thank you for offering me help with this issue.

now after a looooooooooooooooooooong hiatus I took the bull by the horns and sawed the remaining rod off flush with the crankshafts flat counter weight and using a pin vise and a #65 drill bit made a pilot hole in each end of the broken metal rod and kept enlarging the hole until I reached a 7/64" drill bit all of this is by holding the flat area of crankshaft in my fingers as afraid to use a vise for fear of breaking the plastic/delrin it is not very thick and not sure what they used to make the crankshaft assembly.

I measured the metal rod I sawed off it was close to 1\8" so went to home depot and found a 1/8" round cold rolled rod unfortunately smallest length was 3' !!

I do not have a lathe nor know how to use one so by hand I slowly filed the end of the 1/8" rod until it was a snug friction fit that was the easy part, as then I had to cut that to 5/16" long and then hold in a pliers so I could file the other end not an easy thing to do!!

I inserted rod into one end of crankshaft counter weight and tapped using pliers until firmly in place then took piston rod  and slid onto the metal rod opposite end of crankshaft and in a easy slow twisting motion inserted rod into the opposite end of crankshaft counter weight and kept up until I achieved a total width of 7/32" outside diameter of the crankshafts flat counter weights and both counter weights lined up.

I left nothing to chance so I added a drop of zap a gap glue to each outside end of metal rod hopefully that will aid in keeping things firmly connected and working.

this is not a repair for the faint of heart to try, but seeing the part/parts are not available from Lionel any longer I either attempted this repair or had a mid level cost shelf queen that looked pretty!

I still am unsure as to exact cause of this failure all I can tell you is if your shay starts jerking for no apparent reason kill all power quickly and take a look see at the removable crankshaft assembly especially at both sides where the brass gears are located as that is where mine broke.

Minus my labor am retired so time is free ha ha and cost of the rod $3 and a few pennies a pretty cheap fix by todays repair costs!

hope this might help others and no I did not take any pictures as things are so small I doubt without a macro lense my camera would show a clear shot of the entire small parts being built and installed.

 

 

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SINCLAIR, thanks for the thought on helping. If you do get one once parts are available be smarter than me and by the removeable crankshaft assembly and tuck away for later use. 

this is the weak link in this otherwise nice engine I look at it and wonder how they put it together when they made this in the factory as the metal rods for not show from backside of counterweight!

how's the new layout evolving? did you get your switch and power issue resolved?

 

JIM SANDMAN and GUNRUNNERJOHN, your both lucky I found original photos of the broken area on a stick with some other photos!

as you will see there really is very little room to maneuver to easily put into a vise as the 2 halves are still attached. hope this helps you then again hope no one else has to deal with this!

 

 

    to the left of gear is where its broken as I said without a macro lens I couldn't

    get a real close up.

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    this is the broken rod it severed right at the flat counterweight next to brass

    gear this I had to saw off flush so I could drill a pilot hole in center of both sides

    I have no idea how they anchored this originally. you can pivot the halves so

   are 180 of each other this is how you are able to work on them with straight

   on drilling by hand with a small hand drill after that you can use a cordless drill

   to drill out the broken rod ends from each counterweight.

   the crankshaft if you look at your own you will see 3 metal brackets that hold

   this in place to the reciprocating assembly block where the brass drive gears are

   it has a spacing of 1 1/4" from a supported brass bushing to the next support bracket

   with a brass bushing I am thinking there is possibly a strain on the drive area right

   there that in time weakens the metal rod? what do you both think? you will also

   notice that the metal rods do not show on opposite side of flat counterweight.

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   if you look closely you can see the area where the rod is missing thats supposed to be

   attached to the flat counterweight next to the brass gear.

 

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