Lionel ten wheelers "built to order"

I would be shocked if it won't go around O-42. Only 6 coupled drivers with a blind center driver is no big deal. 773 hudsons will negotiate O-36. Previous versions were listed as O-31.

From the photos, very nice.  Sorry you guys didn't get a steam whistle.

When dealing with a generic model, the least of your worries should be a coal pile where an oil tank should be.  I have 3 1/2 O Scale Harriman ten-wheelers and all the Shade Tree books.  No way will this ever be an accurate Southern Pacific locomotive, even with an oil tank.  Just pretend the SP borrowed one from CNW.  SP did run quite a few coal steamers.

This is a very informative thread.  I've learned the following....

1. The dome on the CNW locomotive is taller than the NYC Locomotive.  

2. The the tender with the CNW is different than the NYC.

3. I read here that the SP used a oil tender rather than coal.

4. Some differences on the boilers between the NYC and the CNW (Thanks for posting the     images Rusty).

I really hope Lionel reviews this information.   The compare and contrast reviews really can make the difference from what is a good model into a even better representation of its prototype.    .......Robbie

I have the Legacy NYC 10 wheeler from previous release.

It has no problem negotiating Lionel tubular track O31 curves or switches.

But, I'm not sure if running on fastrack or any other type track would make a difference  

Joe

I noticed that the smokestack on the NYC is tapered in the correct direction on the new model and compared to the previous one. Also, they do not seem to be incorrectly including the word "Lines" on the tender, which really annoyed the heck out of me the last time. 

Without the usual "New tooling banner" I don't see much chance for this latest release to be any different then the previous two.

Also, from reading through this thread, it appears the NYC road to be the closest copy of the prototype. 

Joe 

The catalog pictures have become meaningless. The Last Legacy 4-6-0 #11150 is pictured with NEW YORK CENTRAL on the tender but shipped with NEW YORK CENTRAL LINES.

I would bet on seeing the same engine with a different cab number and possibly a few more features.

I would also be surprised if Lionel does road specific versions. K-Line produced their scale 2-8-2 with road specific details like number boards on the Harriman versions. Lionel's rerelease omitted these details and used the same casting for all.

Fortunate for me I model NYC in 3 rail so any changes I might make will be minimal. SP fans will have their work cut out for them though as Bob2 points out unless Lionel changes course and starts to produce accurate road specific models. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Pete

Robbie,

Great video on this neat little engine. Thanks for posting that.

I have one in Legacy and just love it.

Regards,

Pete, I tend to agree with you. But perhaps at York the Lionel guys took enough heat on the tender lettering the last time, that they will correct it on this one. The 1258 numbering is definitely after the NYC Lines era. And the correct smoke stack would be nice. Can't imagine why the would go to the trouble of picturing things correctly in the catalog and then disappointing people. Go figure!

Glad to "meet" a related road's fan.  1385 could surely do a post-merger (or pre?) fan trip on the Great Wheatie, yes? Don

Balto: the later reply is most likely correct, that it will prove to be a smaller radius than O42.  Even if somehow it's O54, it surely will have a blind center driver, and any minor glitch could be resolved with clearancing for pilot truck swing between cylinders or back of pilot, and adjusting tender coupling distance.  I wouldn't be afraid to order it, especially for O42 curves. Don

Good to support retailers. In this case Charles Ro's early preorder price of $735 is just too attractive, though.  Have paid retail or near for enough other items with my local stores!

With Legacy it will have what you ask and all the other Legacy steam features. Here's a snip from the Lionel catalog description (2014 Vol 2):

Odyssey II speed control

CrewTalk

Official RR speeds

Dynachuff w/32 levels intensity as speed increases

Legacy "Real Time Quilling Whistle"Single or continuous bell ring

Sequence effect for sounds of an entire "trip"

etc.

In fact, 1385 did ran on old Great Western from Oelwein to Marshalltown, Iowa (Gladbrook, Iowa is my hometown on that line) after spent few days at Oelwein Railroad Day in 1980's! Also I rode 1385 for short time at Marshalltown turntable. I do run CGW, C&NW and M&StL on my layout.

P.S. Other replies show I misunderstood your question.  No whistle "steam" smoke unit.

For NYC fans....the ten wheeler tender will not have the word "Lines." The smoke stack, however, will be the same as the previously released ten wheelers.

Reply from Lionel:

 

In regards to your question about the 6-82271, the lettering will be New York Central. No "Lines" will be added. Regarding the smoke stack, it will be the same as previous years. Thank you and please let us know if we can be of any further assistance.

Hi Fellow Model Railroaders, even though there is not a Smoke/Steam Whistle Effect on this Locomotive, I will go ahead an get the FRISCO......Wow, Thanks for the answers to

my Question....Happy Railroading

Although my layout is a work in progress I still enjoy seeing these babies take a spin around the room.

Great video, Skip.

Whose passenger cars are they?

Peter

Hi Peter! Those are MTH Railking cars that I had handy. See you in a couple of weeks.

You bet!

Peter

Peter, Where did you see that? Recently? In the span of about two weeks back in 1988, I saw two jade green NYC boxcars. One was just north of Croton-Harmon in the freight yard along the Hudson River. The other was part of a consist sitting on the old Erie main line in Suffern, NY. They were a rare sight then. Now, I would be amazed to find anything on the road still wearing NYC livery. I could swear that that looks like a copy of one of the photos I took back then!I will have to look for those photos. Pre-dated digital!

Skip.......that is a scan of a pic I took with an instamatic camera in May 1984 during a drive from Philadelphia to Buffalo. I was in Rochester to get dinner. I was drawn to the Water Level Route main line and say a small classification yare with about 3 tracks. The boxcar was there.

Here's another ten wheeler video:

Peter

The Lionel 10 wheelers were what interested me in the new catalog.  I will order one when they offer a Boston and Maine version.

Good evening

Is this a scale dimensioned locomotive?

Clem k