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Well Eric, you didn't mention the sounds changing from simple to compound, which, is a big sound feature on this loco!

And you didn't pay attention in your history class as all of the Y6b's were retired in 1960, not 1961.

 

A couple of little things that I noticed is:

The beautiful sounds of a single chime "Hooter" whistle is represented by a multi-chime whistle casting.

The lettering seems to be too yellow, not the "Duluxe Gold" that it should be. This is really quite obvious on the number board. [As for the number board, it would have been nice if it was etched and polished brass like the builders plate. If they can do those nice tiny little builders plates, why not a proper number board?]

White lettering on the front of the tender should be duluxe gold as well.

The rods have a dull medium grey finish. Some of you might like them as such, but, I would have preferred something more silver. 

Last edited by Big Jim

Eric, thank you again for a great review. Not being an NW fan, it is still interesting to watch the quality reviews that you provide.

 

With that said, can someone reference some time points in the video to explain the "sounds changing from simple to compound"? With all the comments over the years I thought I would be able to pick up on the difference, but I can't.

 

I di hear the starting chuff and I hear the "higher speed" passes that sound like the regular chuff, just faster.

 

Thanks.

 

Charlie

Yeah, in retrospect I should have pointed out the shift. The thing about uploading videos to Youtube is that you can't edit them after the fact or re-upload an edited version without losing all the stats and comments. So if you find a mistake or an omission once you've uploaded, there's not a whole lot you can do about it. Yes, you can excise portions of an uploaded video and you can add annotations, but that doesn't really help much. I wish they would give you a "re-upload" window after the initial upload. It would make my life much easier.

 

-Eric Siegel

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Great Job!

 

BFIMO... The Simple to Compound sound. The hooter whistle would be bad if they got it wrong since the JLC was heralded for that sound. I don't know if I can praise for getting that right. I wish the Y-3 had the hooter. I wish a lot of things for that particular model. The simple to compound sound was not advertised so I was shocked to see that addition which really brought this locomotive to life. Also at 7:20 you point right at the Timken lettering on the trailing truck axle cap. Two major things that improved the Y6,Y6a, and Y6b's were the addition of roller bearings and the one piece cast steel frame. The fact that you can read the Timken name in the casting is awesome.

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Originally Posted by ericstrains.com:

Yeah, in retrospect I should have pointed out the shift. The thing about uploading videos to Youtube is that you can't edit them after the fact...

 

-Eric Siegel

Well, make another short video!

After George Brown's major faux pas from the JLC version, this needs to be set right!

 

Of all of the whistle steam locos that I have seen, this one is the best!

quote:Winston
 The hooter whistle would be bad if they got it wrong since the JLC was heralded for that sound. I don't know if I can praise for getting that right.

I can! Being that this is the quillable version, Rudy did an excellent job!!!

Last edited by Big Jim
Originally Posted by Charlie:

Eric, thank you again for a great review. Not being an NW fan, it is still interesting to watch the quality reviews that you provide.

 

With that said, can someone reference some time points in the video to explain the "sounds changing from simple to compound"? With all the comments over the years I thought I would be able to pick up on the difference, but I can't.

 

I di hear the starting chuff and I hear the "higher speed" passes that sound like the regular chuff, just faster.

 

Thanks.

 

Charlie

Charlie, The time point in the video is 19:58-20:02ish. Because Eric has sequence control enabled it gives you a better reference point. In sequence control the bell stops chiming at speed step 24. The transfer of simple to compound happens at speed step 25. As you roll through using sequence control it is hard to tell because of the bell. This is the only point in the video that this happens. The reasons are many. One the sounds is only activated by a logic block that is similar to the wheel slip on the VL BB. here are the rules.

 

1.  The simple sound is only active after a dead stop or initial startup.

2. Simple sound is only active up to speed step 24.

3. When speed step 25 is commanded the sound changes to compound.

4. Compound is active for the rest of trip until you stop. Yes even if you drop below speed step 25. You have to fully stop to allow simple sounds.

 

So you never hear the sound again because Eric never completes a full stop. The only chance the sound had to make the switch was at the initial roll out but is hard to hear because of the bell.

 

I have attached a video that was posted on a different thread. The change happens at 8 sec.

 

Eric, Great job with your review. I love to watch your layout.

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Last edited by Winston
Originally Posted by Winston:
Originally Posted by Charlie:

Eric, thank you again for a great review. Not being an NW fan, it is still interesting to watch the quality reviews that you provide.

 

With that said, can someone reference some time points in the video to explain the "sounds changing from simple to compound"? With all the comments over the years I thought I would be able to pick up on the difference, but I can't.

 

I di hear the starting chuff and I hear the "higher speed" passes that sound like the regular chuff, just faster.

 

Thanks.

 

Charlie

Charlie, The time point in the video is 19:58-20:02ish. Because Eric has sequence control enabled it gives you a better reference point. In sequence control the bell stops chiming at speed step 24. The transfer of simple to compound happens at speed step 25. As you roll through using sequence control it is hard to tell because of the bell. This is the only point in the video that this happens. The reasons are many. One the sounds is only activated by a logic block that is similar to the wheel slip on the VL BB. here are the rules.

 

1.  The simple sound is only active after a dead stop or initial startup.

2. Simple sound is only active up to speed step 24.

3. When speed step 25 is commanded the sound changes to compound.

4. Compound is active for the rest of trip until you stop. Yes even if you drop below speed step 25. You have to fully stop to allow simple sounds.

 

So you never hear the sound again because Eric never completes a full stop. The only chance the sound had to make the switch was at the initial roll out but is hard to hear because of the bell.

 

I have attached a video that was posted on a different thread. The change happens at 8 sec.

 

Eric, Great job with your review. I love to watch your layout.

Thanks for the explanation & video!  Nice to know those little details.

Originally Posted by Big Jim:

That's what happens when you keep ringing that darn bell, blowing the whistle and running your mouth (Crew Talk)! You can't hear the engine working!

Some times it DOES get too noisy and busy with all the sounds going on, that's when one can turn off the sounds and hear the smoke units motors and the drive mechanism working...then you get to go in and fix them noisy fans/gears...

Thanks for the review Eric!  After seeing/hearing the short clip that Winston posted, my vote for BFIMO is the sound effect of the transfer from simple to compound, that is cool!  I had a Vision Line CC2 (compound engine) and it did not have that feature.  I think it is cool that Lionel seems to be continually innovating new features.

 

thanks again

Hey Hot Water,

Originally Posted by Big Jim:

That's what happens when you keep ringing that darn bell, blowing the whistle and running your mouth (Crew Talk)! You can't hear the engine working!

An excellent observation, and I'm glad that YOU stated that. If I had posted that, there would be quite a few folks whining.

Sometimes it is not what you say, it is how you say it (type it) that may drive fellow members to "whine".

 

Eric,

 

Great review as always.  I especially enjoyed the historical perspective you provided; you have an alternative career option as a teacher.

 

As much as I think the VL BB is Lionel's best steamer,  I enjoy the visually more distinctive whistle effects on the Y6b.  They don't become as conflated with the chuffing smoke as they do on the BB.

 

Also, as a host Vimeo does overcome some of the disadvantages you mention about You Tube, such as maintaining statistics on updates.  However, they do charge, but it's free of advertising.  

 

P.S.  I think you nailed the quilling whistle.

Last edited by Woodshire Bill

This is one of Lionel's better efforts.  I currently have the JLC version, and while some things on the newer model are a plus, there are areas where the older piece is superior.

One case in point is the lettering font and color.  I would like to get this new machine...being somewhat of a Y6b junkie.  We'll see how things work out.

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