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I want to use the MTH 4000 transformer and my DCS system. How do I hook it up to my TIU. Do I need anything else beside hook up wire. I am running 3 independent tracks using an M750 transformer thru the TIU and keep tripping the transformer breaker. Assume I need bigger transformer with more amperage.  

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How big is your layout, how much track?

 

Personally, I think the Z4000 is overkill.  I expect you can get great results if you used a Lionel Powerhouse PH-180 and save some cash:

 

Z4000:

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com...er-p/mth-40-4000.htm

 

PH-180:

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com...ly-p/lio-6-22983.htm

 

(out of stock at MB Klein)

 

The good thing about the PH-180 is you won't be applying too much voltage if you run any TMCC engines (18VAC max recommended), not sure what the Z4000 output voltage is (I only have the Z750, it's 21VAC and I no longer use it).

 

Hope this helps!

The PH is 10 amps, you would want 3 so factor that in.  The advantage of the Z-4000 is robust transformer, room to grow, digital amperage and voltage read out for troubleshooting or seeing issues with engines.  Conventional operations from the transformer. 

 

Yes fully compatible with TIU, has the same banana connector style as your Z-750.   G

Bob,

 

The Z4000 is 10 amps per handle at 5-22 volts. Additionally, it has 4 amp 14 volt, and 4 amp 10 volt accessory outputs.

Instruction from MTH are lacking

What you need is a copy of The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition!  

 

Everything you need to know about DCS is all in MTH’s “The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

http://mthtrains.com/content/40-4002

 

Bob,

Yes, it plugs into the transformer. It originally can with its own remote, but when DCS came out, the DCS remote was programmed to use it also.

 

Using this allows you to use the remote to run conventional engines with FIXED channels using the DCS remote. It actually controls the transformer remotely. I have my Variable channels set to FIXED and I can run all the TIU channels conventionally with this system. I think my Post-War engines actually perform better using this system.

Jersey bob,

    1st I recommend you invest in Barry's book The DCS O Gauge Companion and the OGR Video Guide to DCS, both great educational material for running DCS.  You will find that running your conventionals thru the DCS hand held remote gives you exacting control, if you use the side receiver to the Z4K, Barry spells this out nicely in his book. He also gives exacting info on proper wiring and and block building for constructing your DCS layout.  Take the time to read Barry's book and also watch Rich on the OGR Video Guide to DCS, this will eliminate most all of your running frustration.

PCRR/Dave

 

 IMO it is always better to over power your layout so you can expand your layout as time goes on. If you happen to have the ZW & KW type transformers in your train inventory remember to use the 10 Amp Scott type Breakers between your transformers and your DCS TIU.  Further I highly recommend the use of a Raido Shack 24/18V AC power supply for powering your TIU, the advantages are also spelled out in the DCS O Gauge Companion.

 

Last edited by Pine Creek Railroad
Originally Posted by RJR:

Jersey Bob:  You may have a misunderstanding.  The remote does not plug into the Z4000.  There is a device called a Z4k receiver (I don't have part number) that plugs in, and is controlled by the DCS remote, permitting you to vary Z4000 output voltage from the remote.

I remember when the Z4k receiver first came out!! WooHoo!! Living the good life being able to remote control the Z4k

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