New Cab Forward has no DCS/DCC Switch. What is the story?

Done on purpose now. Apparently a lot of people had engines set in DCC mode that would not run and were sending them back. Some sort of wiring change allows you to run in DCC if you want but it comes set in DCS mode. 

Thanks SJC • Does anyone have a link to the MTH Web Page that shows the steps to program the engine, with no switch.?

Gary

If you follow Marty's with the new PS 3 version boards there is a jumper on the back of the  board  to move , if you leave the jumper on it is set for DCS, if you remove the jumper then it is set for DCC.just read Marty mth tech he can explain it also, that's where i read about the new PS 3 boards!

Alan the jumper in picture is installed which means it is setup for DCS, if jumper removed setup is for DCC OK

Check this forum if you have any more questions

Hi, I would call MTH and ask The Question where the Switch ?

Hi Alan • I remember reading this information from Marty's thread, is this link the correct link, that you are referring too......

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...e-information?page=2

I am still looking for a MTH Link, on this issue. I find it hard to believe that a major manufacture, makes a change and there are No Notes in the RailKing Quick Start Up Manual.

Just put it on the track and add it to your remote like you would any MTH engine, default setting is DCS. The missing switch should not be a problem. They have been leaving the switches off the Railking engines for quite a while now.  

Yes I agree - Where is the switch?

410-381-2580 = MTH Support

Still looking for a link to MTH, that explains the missing switch.

I am not going to program until I see hard copy from MTH.

This is the issue. I have my table at a train show and I am selling this engine. The buyer flips it over and sees the missing switch. I have no prove that RailKing is leaving off the switch. NOT A GOOD DEAL FOR MYSELF OR THE BUYER.

     If MTH is doing this, I need prove from the manufacture. Do you have proof, that I can show. Thanks Gary

Still looking for a link from the Manufacture on this issue.

Gary,

There is no switch on Rail King engines. Get over it.

Hi Barry • I can get over it, but when I am at a train show and selling this engine at my table and the buyer sees no switch, and the buyer ask where is the switch. What proof do you have that I can share with the buyer?

    It is that simple, not rocket science.

A Magazine Article or something in writing from MTH, that is all I need.....

Thanks Gary 

What reason do you need to have a DCC/DCS switch on a railking steamer, are you going to run it on a 2 rail layout?

You're not going to run it on a 2-rail layout as it's not 2-rail compatible, but you can run it on a 3-rail DCC layout if you remove the jumper (or better still install a switch to connect/disconnect the pins).

So MTH should put a switch on every loco in case one guy somewhere might want to run his 3 rail loco with a DCC system?

Hi Matt – No two rail operations - I just want to keep the resale value at a train show, below is the manual that came with the engine, I have 16 engine on my DCS Remote Control and 7 are Proto Sound 3.0 and all the MTH & RailKings have the DCS/DCC Switch. This is the first engine with out the switch. See manual that came with the engine.

     I am at my table at a train show and I have this manual and the engine. The buyer ask where is the switch, the manual shows a switch, I need a up dated manual on this engine and can not find it on the MTH web page.

    I will have to call MTH for a Updated manual.

Manual is generic. youre better off just telling them they install them anymore

Besides, as far as killing youre resale value, the lack of said switch is prolly the least of your worries

Since MTH will be at the show, go ask them for the written documentation you so badly want. Maybe they can write out something just for you.

In case you're wondering, the above is, indeed, intended as sarcasm.

Wow, the OP asks for some simple documentation from the mfg and gets ridiculed.  What a friendly place.

In all fairness Bob, the absence of the switch was explained multiple times.  The plain fact is that the "official" documentation he seeks may not actually exist.

Hi John • Thanks for the infor. you stated "it has been explained multiple times"

     What is the source of this information.

I would like to read up on the missing DCC/DCS Switch.

Thanks Gary

Well, I heard about it through the MTH ASC updates, and I believe it was mentioned when I was down at MTH as well.  If the manual still reflects the switch, I suspect the documentation just hasn't caught up with the product at this point.  I don't actually have it written down, but it is actually the way they're shipping now.

Hi John • Got it • Thanks to you and the others for the help.

Steps for programing a RailKing Steam Engine, with or with out 

DCS / DCC Switch

1, Menu

2. System

3. Engine Set UP

4. Add Engine

5. The DCS Remote Control will do a auto set-up

     For the Cab Forward RailKIng No. 30-1650-1E

     Screen will show SP 4882 / #4293

     Jeff Strank, from MTH Technical Support send me a signed e-mail stating that the new,

RailKing Steam Engine, Quick Start Manual, will be on their web page by mid June, 2015.

At this point, all looks well with this Cab Forward SP 4-8-8-4 Imperial No. 30-1650-1E

Gary

Jeff is the one that said the switch was gone, so he should know.

Hey guys, I have been the hobby for my whole life.  I know a few train guys.  I do not know one DCC guy.  How can I identify them?  What do they look like? Many of us had to run an engine in DCC at MTH school.  It did nothing for me.  DCS forever for me.

Hey guys, I have been the hobby for my whole life.  I know a few train guys.  I do not know one DCC guy.

You need to get out more. 

If the train guys you know are all 3-railers then there are very few DCC guys.  HO, S and N guys are a different story.

They're tiny Marty, here's one now.

I am out every day Bob.  I was serious about that, I never met a DCC person.  I am at York now and asked that question when we met friends earlier.