New Lionel B&M Paul Revere Set Arrived..

I wonder if the sideframes are a "fix" for the earlier issue of brake shoes binding against traction tires?

Isn't this the one with the animated Lobster Tank Car?

 

How does the B&M loco look?

Yes the lobster car, loco, and especially the caboose look great.  The other loco truck had a part fall out so I will wave to replace it...also notice how far out the middle gear is in the pic.  

Sorry to hear about the issues with this. Didn't pre-order but I've got this one on my short list.

If its not right send it back.

I do find it interesting how some of these things arrive. Makes you wonder what has happened to it. I haven't had anything like this yet, but it does look odd. I guess if it runs well, without problems and looks ok on the tracks I might not do anything and just live with it. I would really have to see it in person before saying I could live with it. Not having to send it back is worth a lot, but I would call the manufacturer about it. Maybe they can just send you a replacement part or something.

I will work something out.  Its a good set and I recommend it.  It has that amazing postwar look and IMO is more interesting that any of the CC sets with exception of the Girls Train remake.  The JC Yard Boss is a good one too!

 

I will post detailed pics of this set once I figure out a plan of action.

 

Next up...NW-2's!!  Can't wait for the BN and B&O.

Glad to hear about the "postwar look." Right up my alley!

 

I've got the B&O NW-2on pre-order.

Hi Mike W.,

 

I'm glad you started this thread as I'm curious about this set. I was thinking I might get the engine and run it with my childhood 8654 B&M Geep. I'm assuming the blue will match, but you never know. If possible, could you share a pic of the engine body?

 

Also, how does it run? Does it run fast like a Williams engine, or closer to scale speed?

 

Thanks!

 

Alan P.

I will share a pic of the engine since I had to remove it for the issues.  Once I get a replacement I will give feedback on operation.

 

 

Hey, that was quick! Thanks for the look, been waiting for one since they announced this engine.

 

One minor observation - I think the dynamic brake roof hatch is on backwards.

There is something seriously wrong with those truck sideframes.

 

And yes, the dynamic brake blister is on backwards, and not seated properly.

 

TRW

Hi Mike,  the side frames do look like they are bent.  I am working on a Lionel 2023 Alco from 1950 and those side frames are perfectly straight.  There is no reason why such a basic item like a side frame is bent like that.   

Yeah I noticed the dynamic brake roof hatch as well.  Though it didn't snap off with light force.  So I will await till someone explains an easy fix.

 

Yeah not sure how heavy cast trucks end up bent.  I had the same issue with the diecast flatcar in the recent CC Berkshire set.  It was arched severely.  Is it bent while hot?  Did the tooling get damaged? 

Notwithstanding the issues with the diesel, great looking loco.  Really like the B&M color scheme.

How cool is the Lobsta car?

Lobster car looks great...most colorful of the aquarium based cars.

If anyone offers a break up, Please let me know,  I want just the engine and caboose, I will then add TMCC and RS5 to go with the rest of my PWC and CC collection

Just got mine.  I am keeping the whole set, bit putting TMCC and RS5 in mine is a VERY appealing idea!

 

Ed Boyle

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If anyone offers a break up, Please let me know,  I want just the engine and caboose, I will then add TMCC and RS5 to go with the rest of my PWC and CC collection

 

We have breakup of these. Just call the store at 516-378-9594

Hi CHARLIE,

  I'll take the Lobster car if you have it available.

 

 

While we're giving Ed things to do,  could we see the new Geep next to a postwar and/or MPC version? Thanks!

 

Alan P

Hey, we are supposed to be heading toward the holidays and you want me to work?

 

I am taking the rest of the week end off, but I will check the set on Monday and let you know what I find.  It also gives me time to bring a PW Boston & Maine Geep body into the office and see how they compare.

 

I would not hold out a lot of hope that the paint will be an exact match to the PW original , but that really does not matter IMO.  In the real world, the shades of paint varied from diesel to diesel with the same paint schemes.  The differences will make the new B &M GP-9 look more authentic.

 

Ed Boyle

Week End Vacationer

Is the boxcar a 6464? If anyone breaks up the set, I'll take it.

 

It doesn't say "6464" but in all other ways it is one.

There are two postwar B&M Geeps, made within a few years of each other. 2346 and 2359.

 

Agreed!

As regards the boxcar-did I read/hear somewhere that this will be the last official "6464" car Lionel will make? As noted, "6464" is on the box, but not the car. The graphics/painting is different than prior 6464 B&Ms-more like the 6465 B&M, I think. Enjoy. 

I will Charlie, I just want to make sure the engine is perfect with no bent side frames.

 

 

Breakups already showing up on the auction site. Haven't see the lobster car yet.

I called Charlie and they don't have any lobster cars left from the set breakups.

 

Neal Jeter

Do all the engines come with the bent side frames?

...surprised someone hasn't commented on the new photos.  I tried to show everything of interest in the set.

Lionel needs to make a "Melted Butter Vat Car" to go with that aquarium car!

 

Jon  

Thanks for the pictures, Mike. Very nice color scheme. I have this set down as a 'must have' for my conventional roster but will let the dust settle before I go looking for one. Enjoy your set!

Nice pics MIKE.  I wish I can get a Lobsta car?  One of those in that car would satisfy my appetite for a week!