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I'm going to try and keep this short. I discovered that my LionChief Plus GP7 smokes better with Lionel Premium Smoke fluid. I use Mega-Steam and I like it, but the smoke isn't very thick and the smoke unit in the LC+ smokes better with the premium. Mega-Steam works great on all my other smoke units. 

I live in a small town in Michigan there is a hobby shop about 17 miles from here. Everything else is 30 to 50 miles away or in another state. The hobby shop here doesn't carry it nor can they get it because of mismanaged finance. So I have to order on-line.

Well I found the premium smoke on line, but a lot of people are out-of-stock and the ones that do have it want $6-9 for it which I can live with. What chaps my hide is a lot of them want $15 shipping for a 2oz bottle which is more than what they charge for the product. Plus you can't find out what the shipping charges are unless you register with them and checkout. I guess I'll have to look at trains shows, but again 30 to 50 mile drive or out of state. The best train shops are near Detroit, but that's a 3hr drive.

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"We rip to ship" is a phrase I became familiar with on ebay many years ago.

It's not confined to that site of course. Too many businesses take shipping as an opportunity to pad out just a little more profit. "Handling," you know.

Many others refuse to use anything other than a courier as it's just more convenient for them and hang the additional expense to the customer! On inexpensive items, it's frequently a "deal-breaker."

hokie71 posted:

I found the same result on LIONEL smoke. I Order multiple bottles at a time from our good sponsors like Nassau.

Yep, add me to the list. I have used MegaSteam products for years and still have plenty of supply around. A great product.  But I have found that the Lionel Premium produces better results in my Lionel locos, especially with some of the recent LC+ releases.

Terry Danks posted:

"We rip to ship" is a phrase I became familiar with on ebay many years ago.

It's not confined to that site of course. Too many businesses take shipping as an opportunity to pad out just a little more profit. "Handling," you know.

Many others refuse to use anything other than a courier as it's just more convenient for them and hang the additional expense to the customer! On inexpensive items, it's frequently a "deal-breaker."

Glad to know it's not just me.

rtraincollector posted:

I don't use smoke fluid so not really familiar with it so need to ask is the premium smoke fluid by Lionel the same as what comes in some train sets 6-02920 ?

I'm not really sure Bill. I do know my LionChief Plus smokes better with premium smoke fluid 6-37841. Though after all my ranting, I found my bottle of Supersmoke and it did just as good as Lionel Premium smoke fluid. I'm guessing it's how thick the fluid is.

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