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Bob Severin, 

About 8 years ago I met another engineer that had knee problems so bad he could hardly walk.  He was taking pain medication and walking with a cane.  He took the supplements I suggested, and 9 months later was walking normally without any pain at all.

 

Vitamin C can cause loose bowels if taken in large doses, but 4000 mg is not high enough to cause this problem.

 

Gelatin is pure collagen protein and it what you connective tissue is made out of.  It is the glue that holds your body together.

 

For you body to make collagen protein, it needs vitamin C and copper.  The alfalfa makes the vitamin C work better.  I think it must contain bioflavinoids.  Glucosamine seems to make everything else work better.  

 

Twice in the past, people that I knew had arthritis in their hands.  Both were cured with vitamin C alone, and very quickly.

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by rtr12:
 

 

So what we are saying here is that we as O gaugers have a LOT more to look forward to compared to the HO folks who already have it all. Go back 20-30 years or so and look at the offerings in O gauge compared to today. And please correct me if I'm wrong here (I'm sure someone will), but I don't think the HO folks have all the operating cars and accessories that we have either, and also no middle rail. Looks like we still have the best deal and our future in O gauge looks very bright to me!

 

 

If you look at it carefully, the diversity of HO equipment has grown leaps and bounds over the same period, right down to several manufactures offering road-specific detailed equipment.

 

Plus, they're not tied to proprietary command control systems.

 

As far as the third rail and operating accessories and cars are concerned, that's not what HO is about.

 

Rusty

I was trying to put a positive light on all of our O gauge stuff. We do have the option of having much more fun with the hobby. Some of that was also meant to be tongue & cheek, as in the 'middle rail'. It wasn't supposed to all be taken seriously, but I do realize the other scales are probably envious of us for just that one reason alone.

Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

I take a multi-vitamin and a couple of supplements based on my doctor's recommendation. They track what I am taking.

Just a multi-vitamin here and doctor's also watch me pretty closely. Heart doc told me to stop taking vitamin E and C and a couple other things a few years ago. I have been following their advice and so far it's working, I'm still here.

Bob,

I am currently setting up my post war Lionels permanently for my own enjoyment and that of my grandchildren. Like you, these were the trains I played with as a young boy. It's the tin tube track and Plasticville buildings and a lot of fond memories.

I sometimes wish I had the talent that some on this forum have to make things look as real as they do and I admire their efforts very much.

I'm happy with what I have and enjoy reading and seeing what others are doing. It's a great hobby and this, so far, has been an excellent forum with great helpful ideas and genuinely nice people.

The bottom line is model trains is a very diverse hobby.

Two guys could be lifelong model train nuts with equal skills, money, talent and room for their layouts, living next to each other, but if the following occurs:

  • One models HO, the other in O
  • They model the same scale, but one is all about brass or scratchbuilt and the other is about out of the box
  • One is all about switching and car card operations and paperwork and the other runs his layout like a slot car racing track on flanged wheels
  • One models the AT&SF and other models the NYC

...well, in any such cases, they probably would never even talk to each other. And to anyone not familiar with the differences, that would seem sot be pruely insane while to folks like us, it's be understandable.

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Originally Posted by rtr12:

So what we are saying here is that we as O gaugers have a LOT more to look forward to compared to the HO folks who already have it all. Go back 20-30 years or so and look at the offerings in O gauge compared to today. And please correct me if I'm wrong here (I'm sure someone will), but I don't think the HO folks have all the operating cars and accessories that we have either, and also no middle rail. Looks like we still have the best deal and our future in O gauge looks very bright to me!

 

Not only do I have trouble with hands and HO size, I can no longer see well enough to get the HO stuff on the tracks, let alone work on it. Another BIG plus for O gauge (pun possibly intended)!

Yep, Tyco HO had log dumps, ore dumps, man in a boxcar kicking out crates, tractor loading culvert pipe on a flat and a few other things back in the '70's. Had some of those myself as a kid. I think all that cool stuff went away when Tyco did and HO started becoming a super serious grown up scale. Geez, Tyco was a lot like postwar Lionel back in the day, only not as well built or as big. Made up road names, bright colors, and SPEED! No three rail, but High-Rail track too if you consider how tall code 100 rail is in HO!

Nothing wrong with scale trains and operation, but I hope O-Gauge never fully grows up.

Originally Posted by handyandy:
Originally Posted by rtr12:

So what we are saying here is that we as O gaugers have a LOT more to look forward to compared to the HO folks who already have it all. Go back 20-30 years or so and look at the offerings in O gauge compared to today. And please correct me if I'm wrong here (I'm sure someone will), but I don't think the HO folks have all the operating cars and accessories that we have either, and also no middle rail. Looks like we still have the best deal and our future in O gauge looks very bright to me!

 

Not only do I have trouble with hands and HO size, I can no longer see well enough to get the HO stuff on the tracks, let alone work on it. Another BIG plus for O gauge (pun possibly intended)!

Yep, Tyco HO had log dumps, ore dumps, man in a boxcar kicking out crates, tractor loading culvert pipe on a flat and a few other things back in the '70's. Had some of those myself as a kid. I think all that cool stuff went away when Tyco did and HO started becoming a super serious grown up scale. Geez, Tyco was a lot like postwar Lionel back in the day, only not as well built or as big. Made up road names, bright colors, and SPEED! No three rail, but High-Rail track too if you consider how tall code 100 rail is in HO!

Nothing wrong with scale trains and operation, but I hope O-Gauge never fully grows up.

So they had their chance and it didn't work out for them. I didn't know that. I also have to agree with you, I hope O gauge never grows up either. We really do have it good with both toys and models and a lot in between. And still so many yet to be released items in our O gauge lines. I really do like all aspects of the O gauge hobby, toys, scale models, and I actually even like having 2 command systems. However, I'm a bit jealous of some of the things I have read about DCC that we don't have. Although I guess the 2 rail scales folks could have DCC too.

Originally Posted by rtr12:
Originally Posted by handyandy:
Originally Posted by rtr12:

So what we are saying here is that we as O gaugers have a LOT more to look forward to compared to the HO folks who already have it all. Go back 20-30 years or so and look at the offerings in O gauge compared to today. And please correct me if I'm wrong here (I'm sure someone will), but I don't think the HO folks have all the operating cars and accessories that we have either, and also no middle rail. Looks like we still have the best deal and our future in O gauge looks very bright to me!

 

Not only do I have trouble with hands and HO size, I can no longer see well enough to get the HO stuff on the tracks, let alone work on it. Another BIG plus for O gauge (pun possibly intended)!

Yep, Tyco HO had log dumps, ore dumps, man in a boxcar kicking out crates, tractor loading culvert pipe on a flat and a few other things back in the '70's. Had some of those myself as a kid. I think all that cool stuff went away when Tyco did and HO started becoming a super serious grown up scale. Geez, Tyco was a lot like postwar Lionel back in the day, only not as well built or as big. Made up road names, bright colors, and SPEED! No three rail, but High-Rail track too if you consider how tall code 100 rail is in HO!

Nothing wrong with scale trains and operation, but I hope O-Gauge never fully grows up.

So they had their chance and it didn't work out for them. I didn't know that. I also have to agree with you, I hope O gauge never grows up either. We really do have it good with both toys and models and a lot in between. And still so many yet to be released items in our O gauge lines. I really do like all aspects of the O gauge hobby, toys, scale models, and I actually even like having 2 command systems. However, I'm a bit jealous of some of the things I have read about DCC that we don't have. Although I guess the 2 rail scales folks could have DCC too.

 

 

Lionel also offered HO operating cars and accessories similar to those in their O gauge offerings during the later part of the postwar period.  Didn't seem to completely catch on then either.

I got  into the O gauge train hobby after I retired. Mainly due to vision I went with O.

 

I don't  remember much about the trains my dad had when I was small. No pictures of evidence like that. And he worked for the railroad as well as my Grandpa. A camera would have been a luxury item to my family at the time.

 

All that said, to me every layout I'm fortunate to see gets my attention and I enjoy it tremendously. I could care less about gauge, being real  or anything else. If it's a train running I feel like a kid watching it , and enjoy it.

 

To me the whole idea is to have fun and enjoy the moment. Kinda like take the time to smell the roses.

Larry

I have found that in this hobby of model railroading there seems to be a tendency for cliques to develop with folks that don't seem to be able to tolerate how another hobbyist enjoys their hobby.  I never understood this but I guess to each his own as the old saying goes.  I appreciate both scale and non-scale trains for what they are...a representation of the prototype and I enjoy them in their own settings.  Great thread!!

 

Alan

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