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September 6, 2008 6:30 PM

Some new additions to my GG1 roster as of late:


A 'project' Weaver 4876. It's got a few scratches, but really only needed new pantographs. It is a great runner, but no sound (thankfully considering how bad the original Weaver horn was).


The latest G to come on line. MTH 4892 out of the East Wind set. I was lucky to find the loco sans the cars (I've given up on anything less than 20" for PRR cars unless they are MP54s.). I must say that compared to my CR 4840 of 2005 vintage, there have been some improvements on the model and the paint is flawless. With a new sound set, MTH is poised to give Lionel a run for their money on the JLC version, especially considering how Lionel does not seem to be capitalizing on theirs much these days. Another 4866 Silver? At least do the 4872 so there is a different road number on it!
 

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September 13, 2008 10:57 AM

Does anyone have some pics of Williams scale GG1? I would like to pick one of these up because of the price and everyone seems to love Williams.
 

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September 13, 2008 7:12 PM

Wow, the Williams looks great - I believe I'm sold. I'd like to add two engineers and some interior lighting.
 

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September 13, 2008 8:08 PM

PRRran,

I really am a fan of the Williams models. Look through the whole thread and you will see several. I have the one that Craig posted, a 4935 5 stripe green and another 4935 that is much darker with True Sounds.

I will say the for pulling the MTH and Lionel are at the top. The Weaver is very good, and the Williams, while still good is least powerful. The plastic carbody is the difference. However, on level grades, it's not an issue and on inclines, I've double headed mine in coventional and then the issue is gone!

Bachmann has also done us a favor and made sure all the current releases have prototypical numbers for the paint scheme. That matters to rivet counters like me ... Big Grin
 

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September 13, 2008 9:35 PM

The GG1 is one of only three PRR loco models that I will keep in my collection.
 
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September 16, 2008 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by GG-1 4877:


GG1 4866: This was one of three painted to go with the new Budd Congressional sets which arrived in 1952. The other road numbers were 4872 and 4881. Sadly, none of these road numbers were preserved and 4872 was only scrapped within the last 5 years. This scheme did not last long as the rust tended to streak on the silver paint. We all know how much the PRR valued maintenance and all at that point!


Jonathan--

Is this one Weaver or MTH?
 
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September 16, 2008 9:38 PM

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It looks so sad....



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September 16, 2008 9:55 PM

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PRRran,

I really am a fan of the Williams models. Look through the whole thread and you will see several. I have the one that Craig posted, a 4935 5 stripe green and another 4935 that is much darker with True Sounds.

I will say the for pulling the MTH and Lionel are at the top. The Weaver is very good, and the Williams, while still good is least powerful. The plastic carbody is the difference. However, on level grades, it's not an issue and on inclines, I've double headed mine in coventional and then the issue is gone!

Bachmann has also done us a favor and made sure all the current releases have prototypical numbers for the paint scheme. That matters to rivet counters like me ... Big Grin


I'm glad that Bachmann fixed the numbers because that bugged me too. Do you know if they will have Old Rivits in Conrail blue with the correct 4800?

And is there any hope of adding interior lighting and engineer figures to the Williams?
 

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September 16, 2008 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by ChessieMan:
quote:
Originally posted by GG-1 4877:


GG1 4866: This was one of three painted to go with the new Budd Congressional sets which arrived in 1952. The other road numbers were 4872 and 4881. Sadly, none of these road numbers were preserved and 4872 was only scrapped within the last 5 years. This scheme did not last long as the rust tended to streak on the silver paint. We all know how much the PRR valued maintenance and all at that point!


Jonathan--

Is this one Weaver or MTH?


Chessie Man - this is the Weaver model. It is one of 75 I believe, but that doesn't seem to matter any more. I got it very inexpensively and I think the Weaver model has beautiful lines. They are very, very solid runners even if they lack command and sound. These are very worthy of an upgrade though.

I also need to correct my statement above - it was the 4880 not the 4881 that was painted in this color as well. Back to fix that!

Also - don't miss the obscure Weaver Pink one ..... Eek



Alan - that's certainly one HAPPY 4876 now! Call me crazy, but this scheme was the first GG1 scheme I clearly have a picture of and kind of like it .... ?

Like I said - crazy.

And PRRfan - here is a thread Dominic posted in the 3RS forum with the new Bachmann road numbers. No engineer figure this year, but who knows what they have planned down the road. Honestly there is so much room in this carbody that you could glue your own engineer to the inside and have plenty of room to spare for upgrades down the road.

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September 16, 2008 11:51 PM

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Alan - that's certainly one HAPPY 4876 now! Call me crazy, but this scheme was the first GG1 scheme I clearly have a picture of and kind of like it .... ?

Like I said - crazy.


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September 16, 2008 11:59 PM

John,

Oops I was referring to the NJDOT black scheme, not the pink one I Photoshopped .... Eek

You see, I grew up with them in NJDOT black!
 

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September 17, 2008 10:38 AM

What we all really need is a GG1 in McGinnis colors:



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September 17, 2008 10:49 AM

WOW! What a great thread! Cool

cordially,

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September 17, 2008 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by NH Chris:
What we all really need is a GG1 in McGinnis colors:



Smile

NH Chris


Based on your picture - more to the point, we all need a TYCO GG1 in McGinnis colors. The normally scale HO folk have gotten away with this a few times - i.e. the Penn Line Cast McGinness GG1 and the IHC (I'll paint anything on a locomotive to get a sale!) version did it too!

One of the Gs in this photo is the PRR version of TYCO's rather unique offering.

 

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September 17, 2008 10:18 PM

Jonathan,

That last picture is amazing. Let me guess at this one.
The scenario is that you cannot stop buying GG-1's. You have a fantasy that you buy all of the GG-1's in every scale ever produced. You realize you have a problem and seek help.

The therapist's name is Gigi.

eliot

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September 17, 2008 10:26 PM

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Jonathan,

That last picture is amazing. Let me guess at this one.
The scenario is that you cannot stop buying GG-1's. You have a fantasy that you buy all of the GG-1's in every scale ever produced.


Eliot,

You nailed it to there. I include the 1:1 versions in that statement. At least there are only 17 or so of those around these days. That's a manageable number .... right .... ?!?

The sad thing is that this photo is out of date. I've got 7 more scale 0 ones on the roster now ... Eek


quote:
You realize you have a problem and seek help.

The therapist's name is Gigi.

eliot

See you at York


Problem ? Confused

Should I ever perceive a problem, do you have a number for this therapist? Wink

No York for me this year. Frown Hopefully next year AFTER I get done helping with the TCA national. This is especially disappointing as my uncle lives only 45 minutes from York, and I still have not made a single one. He's been going for over 20 years ....
 

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September 18, 2008 6:44 PM

Those are some great pictures and a good review. I am not fortunate to have a scale one, but I do have a Lionel, single motor, 2332.

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September 19, 2008 8:01 AM

Jonathan:

Have you had a chance to look at Kato's new G in N Scale? It is incredible. Your Arnold Rapido G's will never look the same again. I'll be getting one but it will be some time while my railroad accumulates the requisite funds.

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September 19, 2008 11:06 AM

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Jonathan:

Have you had a chance to look at Kato's new G in N Scale? It is incredible. Your Arnold Rapido G's will never look the same again. I'll be getting one but it will be some time while my railroad accumulates the requisite funds.

Bob


Bob,

I saw the preview on it, but I have not seen the actual model. I'll probably end up with one soon too. Not doing much, if any N scale these days, but it is still a G!
 

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September 23, 2008 5:33 PM

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The Lionel JLC is a formidable model and is the only one commonly available one with the FARR intake filters high up on each end of the hoods.

I may have found one of these. I'll keep you posted.
 
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September 23, 2008 10:11 PM

Chessie Man,

Good luck - I hope you get it. This is probably my favorite GG1 in my O side of the collection. While the FARR filters are definitely a major detraction from the nearly perfect Loewy design, this model exudes brute force.

However, I wish Lionel would reconsider the pantograph design of these.

Please let us know what you come up with!
 

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October 2, 2008 10:53 PM

Jonathan--

It has arrived,brand new mint in the box. I will open it tomorrow. Thank you so much for all of the information that you provided, especially the pricing information!

Thanks
 
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Jonathan--

It has arrived,brand new mint in the box. I will open it tomorrow. Thank you so much for all of the information that you provided, especially the pricing information!

Thanks


Chessie Man - enjoy it! The sound on it is really quite amazing. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I've enjoyed mine. Now to just track down a PC version on this one .....
 

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October 6, 2008 8:50 AM

What is the min. radius of a WBB SCALE GG-1? thanks
 

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What is the min. radius of a WBB SCALE GG-1? thanks


It's advertised as 042, and while I've tried that, it really is better on 054 or better. With the articulation of the frame design though, it still looks a bit out on even 080 .... Eek

Hope that helps!
 

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October 6, 2008 7:49 PM

Just Trains of Delaware is blowing out the Lionel JLC silver GG1s for $499 shipped. Eek
 
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October 6, 2008 8:52 PM

I just stripped a Williams GG1 of its silver paint and red stripe.
Dr. Jamesenstein is on the loose! Eek Eek Eek
 
 
 
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October 6, 2008 8:57 PM

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Just Trains of Delaware is blowing out the Lionel JLC silver GG1s for $499 shipped. Eek


ChessieMan,

I saw that sale on the JusTrains website, and it is causing considerable "cognitive dissonance". GG-1's are still among my favorite locomotives.

cordially,

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October 6, 2008 9:11 PM

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Just Trains of Delaware is blowing out the Lionel JLC silver GG1's for $499 shipped. Eek


Yes, I saw that, too !!!     However, I'm still hoping to see a Lionel Legacy GG1 (5 stripe Tuscan)       ... in my lifetime.   Smile

But, you better hurry up Mr. C.,  'cause my lifetime clock ain't goin' backward !!!

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October 6, 2008 10:21 PM

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Just Trains of Delaware is blowing out the Lionel JLC silver GG1s for $499 shipped. Eek


Now why did you have to go and tell me that? I just weened myself from new purchases as of today! Confused

Decisions, decisions ....
 

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October 9, 2008 11:34 PM

Is anyone buying the Lionel JLC silver GG1 at the blowout price?

 
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October 13, 2008 10:22 AM

No one?
 
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October 13, 2008 10:35 AM

I have mine, but unfortunatly i didn,t pay that price...

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October 13, 2008 1:07 PM

Chessie Man,

I just can't justify the price right now with the current state of things. No matter how well priced it is ...... Frown

I'll stay happy with my Weaver 4866 for the time being.
 

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October 13, 2008 4:44 PM

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The Lionel JLC is a formidable model and is the only one commonly available one with the FARR intake filters high up on each end of the hoods.

I just gave my new model the once over and find that it is a very nice model. It's darker than the photo, almost black in appearance. Now if I could just find a green 5-stripe model to go with it . . .
 
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October 13, 2008 9:14 PM

The detail in your photos is amazing; thatnks for the very useful information; well done!! Dick K.
 
 
 
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October 13, 2008 9:22 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by GG-1 4877:


The Lionel JLC is a formidable model and is the only one commonly available one with the FARR intake filters high up on each end of the hoods.

I just gave my new model the once over and find that it is a very nice model. It's darker than the photo, almost black in appearance. Now if I could just find a green 5-stripe model to go with it . . .


Chessie,

Tip of the hat - you got me Smile I lightened the photo in photoshop to bring out some of the detail. Oops
 

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October 19, 2008 11:40 AM

I took two good, long hard looks at the Lionel JLC silver GG1 at York yesterday. It just did not move me to buy it, even at $499. I disliked it more than the tuscan red GG1s. I will concentrate on finding a DGLE (Brunswick Green) five-stripe JLC model to go with my DGLE single stripe unit.
 
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October 19, 2008 1:10 PM

Chessie,

Thanks for that info. I didn't quite have the $$$ to do it right now anyway, but at a little less than $200, I am very happy with the Weaver silver version. I'll plan on holding on to that one.

On a side note, one of my Williams is now scheduled for the paint shop to correct the number and do some weathering to. Hope to have something to show in a few weeks!
 

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October 19, 2008 1:35 PM

Cool. I don't know if I mentioned this before, but I have two Williams scale GG1s, Green and Tuscan Red five-stripes, plus the original Weaver DGLE five stripe that has the big motors without flywheels. I have never run the weaver model. Roll Eyes
 
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