Shingles!!

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August 24, 2012 10:03 PM

No, not those kind of shingles, but get your shot if you're approaching retirement age...I am talking model shingles.  I don't like any readily available,

that I know about.  I am about to put a roof on a building, and I have built

quite a few, and used a lot of Plastruct ribbed roofing and corrugated, and

even their shingles (not liked...LOOK like plastic), have done tar paper with

sandpaper, and the Thomas Yorke paper towel method.  A lot of model

shingles sold are of wood shingles, others are not three dimensonal, and/or undersized for O scale,  and may be in small squares/quantities and I build grain elevators and stamp mills (this IS O gauge so these are big roofs).  Wooden shingles are generally too early or unlikely to have been used as fireprone around some industries (and any steam road).  So what is a good, affordable source for O scale asphalt shingles, in three dimentional sheets or

strips or?

 

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August 25, 2012 1:36 AM

I use grandt line shingles. They come in strips and look very good. 

 
 
 
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August 25, 2012 2:11 PM

Thanks, Mike CT, but I have looked at those before...there are no O scale paper

shingles, no asphalt shingles, and the packages of real wood shingles only cover a 5+ inch square.  The roof on this water mill, just the main building..I am putting ribbed "metal" roofing on some of the annexes....would eat 6 packages of those= $60.00 for the roof! Oops, the two story rear section would take another couple of packages. (in this instance, as the main building is "older", and to make it look so, it, and the rear section, could take wooden shingles...but only if cheaper.)  To make buildings look older in some instances, I try to make roofs look repaired with other unmatching material, rusty, etc.  (one of the annexes has tarpaper patching around the chimney)

 

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August 25, 2012 4:03 PM

Well your choices of commercially available products will all be somewhat expensive. These are nice and I have used it on some small projects

http://www.rustystumps.com/products.asp?id=24

but again not cheap especially if you need to cover large expanses.

 

I am current shingling a very large roof complex using real wood shakes that I cut myself from hardwood veneer scrap I was able to get hold of. They size out at .020" thick which is real close to actual shakes. I apply them individually and distress many for added aging, I doubt a commecially available shake roof will ever beat these for reaism. But we are talking mega labor intensive, The material cost is zero dollars however. I know most modelers would pass on this preferring a fast stick-on type material, and I can't blame them, but time spent on my hobby is all good to me. Here's a couple photos.

 

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August 25, 2012 4:22 PM

Originally Posted by flanger:
...from hardwood veneer scrap...

What kind of hardwood?

 

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August 25, 2012 4:50 PM

Martin, I'm told it is cherry, but I cannot be sure. It has been given a I/A treatment in these photos.

 

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August 25, 2012 4:54 PM

Bills Train Shop (BTS)
These are paper sticky back shingles.  14 sq inches per sheet.
O-scale part numbers.
11000 Random Cedar Shingles 2 Sheets $4.00
11004 Octagonal Shingles 2 Sheets $4.00
11006 Diamond Shingles 2 Sheets $4.00
11008 Sawtooth Shingles 2 Sheets $4.00
11010 Three Tab Shingles 2 Sheets $3.50
11012 French Diamond Shingles 2 Sheets $3.50
11014 Cedar Shingles 2 Sheets $4.00









 
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August 25, 2012 5:01 PM

Originally Posted by flanger:

Martin, I'm told it is cherry, but I cannot be sure. It has been given a I/A treatment in these photos.

 

Bob

Thanks!

 

I think I still may have a box of oak veneer stored away that I will never use so II need to remember to locate it and use it up!

 

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August 25, 2012 6:01 PM

Originally Posted by flanger:
I am current shingling a very large roof complex using real wood shakes that I cut myself from hardwood veneer scrap I was able to get hold of. They size out at .020" thick which is real close to actual shakes.


Bob,

That is beautiful work, and a great tip!   Thanks.   I agree with you that no commercial product is likely to match your technique.  And it certainly won't match the satisfaction!

 

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August 25, 2012 7:04 PM

Bob..those shake shingles in the close up photo look like somebody was standing

on the roof of a state park restoration!  While I am sure that beats mine for labor

intense, as well as appearance,  I, having no patience, after posting, devised somethlng for shingles wanted NOW that is coming out much better than hoped, though also more labor intensive than I would like. 

This kitbashed kit came with one dimensional printed light gray shingle sheets, and

I wanted something better.

I decided to go with (light brown) sandpaper, and gritting my teeth, cut my own shingle strips. But it is the color effect I got by first  randomly running two shades of brown and two shades of gray in ribbons down the sand side of the paper with rattle cans that I am pleased with. 

By cutting out the strips, cutting separations almost through, and then randomly applying, I got a really nice weathered asphalt shingle effect.  It may be the lighting, as I used no "green", but I even have a "mossy" look (not usually appropriate for

asphalt shingles but I am trying to portray a very old building).   I have one building annex covered, but the big main building is yet to go...two sheets of sandpaper look like they will do all the shingles.  I think black sandpaper might give me another possibility for another model, playing with color shades of overspray, as long as I can stand cutting and gluing on strips.

 

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August 25, 2012 7:31 PM

Pete, how come your "ghost" looks different from the others?

 
 
 
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August 25, 2012 8:21 PM

Originally Posted by Vulcan:

Pete, how come your "ghost" looks different from the others?

Shhh!!   Are you trying to get me in trouble with the authorities?! 

 

It looks different because it is really me.

 

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August 25, 2012 9:03 PM

That's the spirit !!

 

 
 
 
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August 27, 2012 5:58 PM

Wow..in the current Oct./Nov. issue of OGR, P. 67, that just floated in,  there is a really nice, large urban station, with full, lighted interior!! that the caption says used 18 (eighteen!) packs of commercial shingles.

 

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August 27, 2012 8:05 PM

Originally Posted by coloradohirailer:

Wow..in the current Oct./Nov. issue of OGR, P. 67, that just floated in,  there is a really nice, large urban station, with full, lighted interior!! that the caption says used 18 (eighteen!) packs of commercial shingles.

It's not hard to use up a lot of these pretty fast.

 

Last building that I did used 3 packs of the Builders in Scale shingles and it was a pretty small building - should be in OST in a couple of issues,

 

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August 28, 2012 6:29 AM

14 sq inches per sheet,  2" X 7",  Maybe about 3.75" X 3.75", I depends on overlap and waste, just like the real ones. Paper shingles also shrink once painted, which can come into play when applied. IMO best to paint before applying. A starter row, upside down in this picture, eats up a lot and there are also ridge caps.


Painting shingle sheets.


It takes a while to dry.

Once painted the self-stick becomes less, and maybe even problematic. Less paint at this stage is maybe better, IMO.

There is an interesting paint technique with the air brush. If you hold the brush back and allow the paint to dry a bit as it move to the shingle sheets, there is a granular effect, similar to shingle surface.  Looks good, but better as a final paint application once the shingles are in place, it tends to make the self-stick worse. IMO 

 
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August 28, 2012 6:59 AM

I use construction paper. Super inexpensive, and can be cut into any pattern I desire. Below is an image of a recent roof I made with it.

 

 

The corner shingles had yet to be installed.

 

 

 

The finished roof.

 

 
 
 
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August 28, 2012 8:33 AM

Check out the gray or brown paper roof shingles on the WSR page of my website.www.fredmdole.com

 

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August 28, 2012 9:40 AM

Used construction paper, cut into strips, then slit 7/8 of the way across.  Mist gray, camoflauge green, or dark gray primer on some of the shingles. Use a full shingle width mask so you color shingles individually.   Attach shingle strips with glue stick

 

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