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I picked up two standard gauge 223 switches this weekend at a show in hamburg. I cleaned them up and got both of them working well but I am missing an insulator on one of the trigger rails as well as the lanterns. I have seen the lanterns for sale but does anyone make the insulators or should i just fabricate one?  also I noticed in some of the standard gauge track plans switches that look like the reverse route is more shallow than the 223 but don't seem to be able to find a reference or number for it.  thanks for any help.  Rick

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Rick Rubino posted:

I picked up two standard gauge 223 switches this weekend at a show in hamburg. I cleaned them up and got both of them working well but I am missing an insulator on one of the trigger rails as well as the lanterns. I have seen the lanterns for sale but does anyone make the insulators or should i just fabricate one?  also I noticed in some of the standard gauge track plans switches that look like the reverse route is more shallow than the 223 but don't seem to be able to find a reference or number for it.  thanks for any help.  Rick

Which insulator are you referring to - the piece that attaches the track to the switch frame or the insulating pin that is inserted between the switch rail and the matching rail in the next piece of track?

The fiber pin is P/N 011-11 and is readily available (it was used for both '0' gauge and 'Standard' gauge track). If it is the other piece, take a junk piece of track, '0' or 'Standard' and use the insulating material that Lionel used to secure the center rail.

Ron M

Rick Rubino posted:

also I noticed in some of the standard gauge track plans switches that look like the reverse route is more shallow than the 223 but don't seem to be able to find a reference or number for it.  thanks for any help.  Rick

I'm assuming you are referring to the radius of the turnout portion of the switch?  The vintage prewar Lionel 223's are made to match what was the standard curve at the time, 42" diameter. These are also reproduced by MTH/Lionel Classics/Tinplate Traditions:

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MTH/Lionel Classics/Tinplate Traditions also makes a switch with wider radius curved portion to match the 72" diameter standard gauge curves.  These may be what you were seeing that looked "shallower"?  These have been made since the 1990's  or so, they were not available pre-war:

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david

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Rick Rubino posted:

Thanks guys. that answers most everything , I am assuming that anything standard gauge will go thru the 42" curves then.  David noticed your tag line for the Hojack , I live about a mile from it in Greece NY are you local as well.

Vintage prewar standard gauge should go through 42" curves.  Quite a few Modern Era Standard Gauge will need the wider 72 or 84 curves.

I see you're down around Rochester.  I have a family summer place up in the Alex Bay – Clayton area.  In the 1920's my dad would go up on the overnight New York Central from Grand Central and get off at Redwood.  The NYC acquired the RW&O in 1891.

david

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