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For you folks that are using the Super-Chuffer, I came up with an installation enhancement.  How would you like to have the smoke volume lower when you stop?  I got to thinking about this, and thought it would be neat to have great smoke while I was running, but if I stop for a spell with the smoke on, I'd like it to be more "idle smoke", not a huge stream.  With that in mind, I set about seeing how I'd accomplish that.

 

Since the Super-Chuffer already knows when you're stopped, that's when it turns the cab light on, it turns out this is pretty easy.  If you just add a 12VDC relay across the cab light with a filter cap to eliminate contact chatter, you have a set of contacts that open and close when you start and stop!  Cool beans, so how can you use these?  If you run the smoke power through the normally-closed contacts of the relay we just installed, it will turn off the smoke whenever you stop and the cab light comes on.  Since we don't actually want to really totally turn it off, I put a few diode pairs across the normally-closed contacts.  This allows a reduced voltage to flow to the smoke unit, the exact amount of reduction can be "tuned" by the number of diode pairs you use, each pair drops the voltage about .6 to .7 volts.  In the example below, I use a pair of 1.2A bridge rectifiers, each bridge is two diode pairs.  This results in a drop of close to 3 volts when I measure it, and the smoke volume falls off very nicely at idle.

 

I installed this in a test locomotive, and the effect is really cool, well worth the small investment in parts and labor!

 

Here's a diagram of how I did it.

 

 

Super-Chuffer Example With Smoke Intensity Control

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GRJ,

I am confused.

The Figure 2 diagram that comes with the Super Chuffer shows the chuff input going from HD2 pin2 to pin 2 on the Cruise Commander and HD2 1 going to frame ground.

The Smoke Intensity diagram above has the chuff input going from HD1 pin5 to pin 2 on the Cruise Commander. HD2 pins 1 and 2 are not used.

Are both circuits correct?

I want to install a warm white LED in the cab. How do I do that?

Are there any special considerations when hooking up to a TAS smoke unit?

(I assume that when you come out with Super Chuffer II, you will use a solid state approach to reduce space versus the relay in this circuit.)  

Yes, both configurations are correct and will work.  The HD2 is actually only required for direct connection to the RailSounds chuff input.  That is because the RailSounds card does not have a frame referenced DC ground so the signal has to be totally floating.  However, in most installations, you can just pipe the chuff into the TMCC R2LC chuff input in parallel with the chuff switch, both referenced to frame ground this will save some wiring complexity.

I don't know that I'd change from a relay.  The relay is a totally isolated set of contacts, you'll notice that neither of the connections to the contacts are referenced to frame ground.  The coil of the relay also isn't referenced to frame ground the way it's wired either.  I truthfully haven't really put a lot of thought in doing another version of the Super-Chuffer at this point, I have several other projects that I'd like to get out first.

As far as the TAS smoke unit, that kinda' depends.  I've only used the ones without the "smart" electronics and temperature sensor in this application.  I'm not entirely sure how the TAS will react to a drop in the voltage, and I've never seen a decent writeup of exactly how the TAS smart smoke unit works.

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