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Those of us who grew up with the Lone Ranger, either on radio, comic books, or television hold those times dear because those programs and others like it helped teach us about good vs. bad, right from wrong.  It was part of the "good times" for us.  The new movie and they way the Lone Ranger is portrayed just might be infringing on sacred ground......our Lone Ranger.

 

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Steve

Originally Posted by c.sam:

Perhaps MTH should try to get the rights and a license to do the Lone Ranger pieces using their nice 4-6-0 and 18th century passenger/freight cars to make up a set?

c.sam:  LIONEL has had the Lone Ranger rights & has had a train set with subsequent add-on cars on sale for several years now.  Lionel had timed the set with what was to have been the original release date of the film.   But the film was beseiged by massive budgetary & production problems, causing such a delay.    See link at www.lionel.com :    http://www.lionel.com/Products/Finder/ProductDetail.cfm?ProductNumber=6-30116&expandBranch=0&Keywords=Ranger&CategoryID=0&RailLineID=&CatalogId=

Originally Posted by david1:

Well it's official, the Lone Ranger has been voted the worst movie of the summer. Also a Disney exec. Said they would take a 100 million dollar write off on the Lone Ranger. No hope of making a profit eh!

I have to disagree - After Earth would take the title as the worst Summer movie of 2013 so far...

Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by DennisB:

Seriously? It's a fantasy... How about the Wizard of OZ? Flying Monkeys? Witches riding on brooms? Riding a bicycle across the sky in ET?. Do you not like those movies?

Funny how some things are OK in one film.....but not another. Bond's Lotus Esprit car/submarine  is OK while if you know Lotus cars of the era could not keep a light rain from getting inside!!! IT'S ALL FANTASY......few true life documentaries in mainstream theaters.  

Don't forget the Bond movie "Goldfinger" when Oddjob took the gangster's car and put it in the crusher (along with the gangster), crushed it into a cube, then lifted it with a magnetic crane and dropped it in the back cargo bed of Oddjob's Ranchero and drove off without the Ranchero's suspension collapsing or the tires exploding under the sheer weight of the crushed car; as if crushing a car into a smaller cube is going to make it lighter. 


But it was a great flick; one of the Bond classics. 

Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by c.sam:

Perhaps MTH should try to get the rights and a license to do the Lone Ranger pieces using their nice 4-6-0 and 18th century passenger/freight cars to make up a set?

 

Come on guys - inaccuracies or not, it's just a diversionary movie. I'll agree that the portrayal of the Ranger was 'weak' and Tonto was odd but it was still fun. Beautiful scenery.

 

I especially liked when Tonto answered his queery as to what Kemosabbe meant and he responded "Wrong brother". I about fell out of my seat laughing.

 

Oh, we caught the senior discount and paid but $5 apiece. Such a deal...

I just bought a non-running MTH 4-6-0 19th century to build a Lone Ranger loco.....so I'm gonna do it....and maybe a few cars too. The jail car the flats and a few passenger cars would be good. So those that don't like it .....don't open my posts on building the train!!!

 

 

RadioRon - Yes, I remember that Lionel has produced a Lone Ranger set, but the MTH Ten-Wheeler is a much better representation of the film locomotive for certain. Considering that many here are slamming the film for it's 'fantacy' interpretation of the LR Tradition, I felt that the suggestion was warranted! 

 

AMCDave -  I hope you proceed and post some photos soon of your train!

I know we'll be putting something together as a diorama for the club's portable layout starting SOON...

Originally Posted by DennisB:
Originally Posted by overlandflyer:

...haven't seen anything so ludicrous i could even compare it to.

 

a horse running atop moving coaches?  ...please.

another Hollywood embarrassment.

Seriously? It's a fantasy... How about the Wizard of OZ? Flying Monkeys? Witches riding on brooms? Riding a bicycle across the sky in ET?. Do you not like those movies?

if you want to create a fantasy, be creative but don't take a classic and make a joke out of it.

the Wiz and ET were written as fantasies, the Lone Ranger was not.

Was just telling my wife that this thread is on its 7th page and she asked what eveyone thought of the film. When I told her of the poor reception from many of you and most from people who won't go see it for themselves, she said "Tell them to go see it - it's a fun movie". That's all we expected and enjoyed it. She also said "The trains were worth it!"

 

And they were..

 

Remember too that this is geared to younger kids so much of the action (like a horse running atop moving cars) was 'normal' for that age group. It was really refreshing not to have to listen to the awful language that is so common today.

 

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Originally Posted by overlandflyer:
if you want to create a fantasy, be creative but don't take a classic and make a joke out of it.

the Wiz and ET were written as fantasies, the Lone Ranger was not.

I get it. You want to see the Lone Ranger as you remember him from the TV series.

 

I was a huge fan of the Batman in comic books. However, when the campy TV series came out I was disappointed because it didn't match up with the more serious Batman. The recent Batman films are more true to the character as I saw him. Yet, there are those who don't like these rather dark films because they are such a departure from the TV series. The point is, neither take on the character is wrong or bad, they're just different.

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Originally Posted by DennisB:
Originally Posted by overlandflyer:
if you want to create a fantasy, be creative but don't take a classic and make a joke out of it.

the Wiz and ET were written as fantasies, the Lone Ranger was not.

I get it. You want to see the Lone Ranger as you remember him from the TV series.

 

I was a huge fan of the Batman in comic books. However, when the campy TV series came out I was disappointed because it didn't match up with the more serious Batman. The recent Batman films are more true to the character as I saw him. Yet, there are those who don't like these rather dark films because they are such a departure from the TV series. The point is, neither take on the character is wrong or bad, they're just different.

And yet, when they made the Maverick movie in 1994, they managed to be relatively true to the 1950's TV series.  Yeah, Gibson was a little hammy, but the overall feel of the movie was similar to the series.

 

Disney apparently made a decision to make a Johnny Depp movie and not a Lone Ranger movie.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by DennisB: 

I was a huge fan of the Batman in comic books. However, when the campy TV series came out I was disappointed because it didn't match up with the more serious Batman. The recent Batman films are more true to the character as I saw him. Yet, there are those who don't like these rather dark films because they are such a departure from the TV series. The point is, neither take on the character is wrong or bad, they're just different.

You probably would have liked Batman: The Animated Series from the 1990's.  That's the one I grew up with, and the one that comes to my mind when I think of Batman.  From what I understand, this series was more heavily inspired by the original 1940's comic book series.

Two and a half hours of pure, unadulterated, mindless fun.  Just got back and my wife and I both enjoyed it.  As the credts were rolling she looked over at me and said "how can anybody not like that movie?"  I just don't know.

 

Yeah, I'm old enough to remember Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheals.  I watched that TV show all the time.  This was different, this was a more modern take showing what's possible with todays actors and technology.

 

I rarely go to a movie with any expectations other than "enjoying the show".  I'm hardly ever disappointed.

 

This one will be a Blue Ray purchase when available.  a 'feel good' movie, like The Graduate.

Originally Posted by Johnsgg1:

 

I rarely go to a movie with any expectations other than "enjoying the show".  I'm hardly ever disappointed.

 

This one will be a Blue Ray purchase when available.  a 'feel good' movie, like The Graduate.

I just got back from my 2nd viewing. STILL had fun. And the 50-60 folks that saw the 3 pm show seemed to agree as they were talking among themselves about parts they liked etc. It ain't for everyone....but that's why Hollywood makes 100's of movies a year!

 

 

PS....those worried that the box office numbers would make it a good time to buy Disney stock......the stock price went up 1.5% AFTER weekend box office numbers were published.......

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Originally Posted by Allan Miller:
Originally Posted by Johnsgg1:

This one will be a Blue Ray purchase when available.

You shouldn't have to wait long...give it a week or so.

No date for DVD/Blu-Ray has been announced.  It will be interesting to see what Disney does with the residual releases; my guess is, however, that nothing on DVD will be released until the movie plays out its run internationally.  Figure...the first week of November or late October for theU.S. DVD/Blu-Ray.

General rule of thumb is if the movie is released in the Summer, the home release will take place to start up the Holiday buying season, so these movies will start being released in mid to late October.

 

I preordered Star Trek Into Darkness on Blu Ray and it's slated for possible October release.  I think Iron Man 3, the first big movie for this season, is due in late September.

Originally Posted by Eddie Marra:

General rule of thumb is if the movie is released in the Summer, the home release will take place to start up the Holiday buying season, so these movies will start being released in mid to late October.

 

I preordered Star Trek Into Darkness on Blu Ray and it's slated for possible October release.  I think Iron Man 3, the first big movie for this season, is due in late September.

you're comparing apples to lemons...

Rotten Tomatoes; Tomatometer Ratings:

 

Star Trek Into Darkness ... critics 87%, audience 92%

The Lone Ranger (2013) ... critics 25%, audience 68%

 

i'll go with a late summer DVD release. kids will still need somewhere to go and that's mostly what summer movies are about.

Originally Posted by scale rail:

I think I'll just watch "How The West Was Won" again. Good train footage at the end. Don

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Wow, you brought back some memories for me.  I can remember going to see it with my Boy Scout troop back in the 60's.  It was shown in Panavision with 3 projectors.  I saw it at the old Nixon Theater - big art deco setting with balconies and long rows.

 

The buffalo stampede was amazing.  Because of the way it was filmed and projected, you thought you were IN the stampede.  And yes, there were lots of train scenes.

 

As for the Lone Ranger, I heard Disney spent $250M making the film and $175M marketing it - OUCH.  Mickey might be reduced to having to scrounge for cheese!

 

George

At last, the Lone Ranger has opened here in Holland. I went to see it tonight and was very impressed. The film was even better than I had expected and I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. (OK, apart from the heart eating bit, but I closed my eyes for that bit.)

I think that Mr Depp played Tonto very well, and the that whole film was extremely well made. 

As far as I am concerned, this film deserves at least 2 thumbs up. 

Good for you Nicole!!! The major reason the film 'failed' was the press it received before it was shown to the public!!!!  The vast majority of those that went to see it, know it wasn't Inception, enjoyed it.  Hammer came out this week and blasted the press for killing, in his opinion and mine, the film before it was shown.

Well, the 2014 Razzie Awards came and went last night, just before the Oscars of tonight.

 

The Lone Ranger pulled out with one award for worst sequel, prequel, rip-off, or remake, but managed to stay with only one.

 

Honestly, I think every other award was deserved, but the other choices for this category make The Lone Ranger look like True Grit by comparison.

 

BTW Dave, I did manage to make some progress in the title-metioned project. The stack has come off and the tender is being fitting for a cover over the wood load. I will get more into the project when school lets up...

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