Johnny Depp......... as Jack Sparrow........... as Tonto

While trade reviews have been so-so.....that's good news to me as i agree with them NEVER!

The train footage is wild....and if you have knowledge of trains you'll have to ignore the things like lobster claw couplers and box cars that can run down the track sideways......but I'll be fine as long as it's a decent story.....they can take a few Hollywwod liberties.

I kinda wish WbB had gotten the toy license as the locos in the movie look alot like WbB's newer 4-6-0 engine and I could see them do a cool movie train. I may have to myself if it's any good!

Well, with a collection of Fran Strycker (the originator of the Lone Ranger) books, and a fan of all those TV shows back when, I have serious doubts that those of us who lived that are gonna like Tonto with a buzzard sitting on his head.  For me,  the second "True Grit" did not measure up to the first.  I also am of the opinion that the guy who played the Lone Ranger in those, and, kind of eccentrically, tried to live the part forever, got rough treatment from the corporate license holders.  The guy they have playing the Lone Ranger in this version looks just plain skinny, like he was lost at sea for a few months and lived off what he could drag aboard.  But I guess if you sent

off a Cheerios boxtop for a Lone Ranger sparking pistol ring, you'd be hard to please, too.  To this day, I have to swat my hand to keep from starting a collection of cap

pistols including one very rare one I had as a kid and saw on eBay.

I have to see it.  The Lone Ranger.  A really cool Tonto.  And trains.  Hi Ho Silver, away.

I really, really wish, that you could stream it ahead of the theater release, like the movie Europa Report (pretty good actually) that we watched tonight from Amazon, a month  b e f o r e  theater release.  I'll skip the lines and noisy theater crowds this weekend, and go see it sometime late next week. 

Is Lionel making a Lone ranger movie train set? I know they made an o-gauge Lone ranger set a couple years back.

If the movie was titled Tonto, it would be more appropriate. What Depp will bring to the Tonto character will have you thinking "Lone Who"? after seeing the movie.

How bad can it be?  After so many monumental stinkers by Hollywood over the years, this looks like a fun, action packed, shoot em up of the old fashioned kind.  I'll be within 10 degrees of the lens axis at 2 times the diagonal of the screen come this Saturday. 

I have been in love with Westerns since I had the complete Hopalong Cassidy outfit when I was 4 or so.  I know I had every cap gun Hubley et al ever made.  Neither me nor my friends became serial killers I'm proud to say.

Was catalogued again in the 2013 RTR catalog.

Lego has actually a nice one and offer better play value, like always..yes it's non-powered.

Matt: That Lone Ranger set WAS the tie-in for THIS film... which was plagued with numerous cost over-runs & was almost declared dead more than once.  Perhaps now Lionel can start selling some of those sets if it creates some good marketing tie-ins!  Although Lionel's Lone Ranger set is better than it's tepid "Christmas Story" set... its not by much.  Its unfortunate too, because unlike "Harry Potter,""Thomas," & "A Christmas Story," it was the first time Lionel was actually on time & in line with a movie/TV-related product.  It turned out to be a mistake of all things!

Most of you never listened to the Lone Ranger on the radio, and some of you don't know what a radio is.

I listened to the LONE RANGER and CAPTAIN MIDNIGHT after school and before dinner every weekday.

The Shadow knows...

LaMont Cranston.

Have tickets for a Wednesday matinee in hand.  

"Better play value"...at least in ONE person's opinion.  Nice generalization....  

Of course I know what a radio is...my brother gave me a CB for my car one Christmas

(which I have never taken out of the box...and I think that fad has passed)

RadioRon, I did not know that. I always thought it was just a set to celebrate the old Lone ranger tv show or something, but thanks for the info!

I plan to see it.  I was a big Clayton Moore, Lone Ranger fan as a kid.  I'm also generally a Johnny Depp fan, and do expect him to steal the show.  He's no Jay Silverheels, but the TV Tonto seemed to serve as the show's conscience as much as the straight man or sidekick.  Unfortunately, the radio & TV show were both before my time, but the reruns on the weekends always had me riveted.  I'm hoping it will come to one of the couple drive-ins we have outside the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex...it would be a great way to catch it.

I debated getting the Lone Ranger set as a guilty pleasure, but read some cautioning details on quality here so I settled for the Lone Ranger & Outlaw Operating Car by itself.  HI-YO Silver!

I record and watch both the old Lone Ranger and Roy Rogers shows everyday.

http://www.cozitv.com/shows/we...anger-182201901.html

http://www.cozitv.com/shows/we...-Show-182433931.html

Gerry

I like to watch them because every so often a b-western actor will show up in the cast.

Last week it was Tom London, plays the sheriff on Roy's show, Bob Cason and Kermit Maynard.

For me growing up in the 50's it will always be Clayton Moore & Jay Siverheels. They replaced Clayton Moore in 1950 & 1951 with John Hart because of a contract dispute but it wasn't the same even with Silverheels.

I also grew up watching reruns of Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels, and they made a pretty good impression on me as to what the characters should be like.  I despised the 80's movie version and the attempted reboot in the early 00's.  That being said, I am cautiously optimistic for the upcoming version.

If they manage to keep the Lone Ranger's moral code intact, avoid making either character a buffoon, and tell a good story without being preachy or politically correct, then I think it will be all right.

I am still tickled with my Lionel Lone Ranger set.

Andy

Pennsyk4, both Kermit and Ken Maynard grew up here in Columbus. They lived about 8 blocks from what was then the fairgrounds. I worked with an older gentleman years ago that said when Kermit came back to visit his mother that he kept his horse at the fairgrounds and would ride it around town. This was back in the 1930's.

Does anyone know if any of the original show's music will be in the movie? Because if there's no William Tell Overture then I'm not gonna see it! If no Rossini then it's just another cowboy movie.

As a matter of fact, director Gore Verbinski already confirmed using the William Tell Overture during the movie's climax.

Even spaghetti westerns?




What, me worry?

Trains or not, I will NOT be going to the theater to see this new film.  With the price of attending a movie at the theater being what it is (and including the obligatory large buttered popcorn and a small Coke), I reserve my in-theater participation for films that really look good to me.  DVD's are what I usually wait for because I can get them for a fraction of the price.

Sorry, but I still like Jay Silverheels as Tonto. 

There is only ONE Lone Ranger. Don

Hi Eddy G, I know what a radio is, that's a Rodeo-Ray gun.

As for the movie, it looks ok but as Allan stated above this looks to be a DVD night.

I can picture him mounting his trusty steed, Silver and riding off into the sunset with Tonto.  Yes, Kimosabe!

Anyway Tonto can't ride a horse. Don

Spaghetti westerns, macaroni and cheese westerns, and adult westerns on TV where some days not a shot was fired.  Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear, home to Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, Yancy Derringer,  Maverick, Cheyenne and so many more.  While I love DVDs and my big screen TV attached to a hard drive my son configured with about 300 HD movies, nothing beats the singular experience of a movie on a big screen with big sound and big popcorn.

Allan, When I take my grandson to the movies, we stop in the super market and buy what we need, and hide it in our pockets.

He rode that horse just like a drunkin sailor..........go figure.

This is one that will have to be seen on the big screen.  Can't wait.

RickO, could it be that Tonto was once a, a, a pirate? Oh my gosh!!! Don

Alan -- there are many excellent movies that should be seen only on the big screen, even if you have 60" big screen w/Bluray and surround sound it pales in comparison to the theatre.  Just sayin' -- this might be one of them.

Looks like a on demand movie! My buddy who saw a preview of the movie is not impressed. It has some good scenes but overall he summed it up word in two words----it sucks. 

Why can't Hollywood make a good Lone Ranger movie? 3 movies, 3 flops. 

I think I'll just watch "How The West Was Won" again. Good train footage at the end. Don

RickO:  I believe you have that completely correct!  I'm sick of three movies of Depp's Jack Sparrow schtick, & from the previews I've seen thats exactly what looks like will be happening in this film.

Unfortunately the critics are bashing it, he-l what do they know.

Just remember, the critics have been so right about so many films. They hated:

• The Sound of Music. They really hated this one.
• Jaws
• Star Wars
• Independence Day

Seems they hate films that people like. Go figure.

By the way, Scale Rail -- good call on How the West was Won. I like that one, and despite Kevin Costner Silverado and Dances with Wolves. Blazing Saddles was entertaining and pretty much skewered every western movie and social cliche I can think of.

And Matt, they seldom like westerns. Don

Hope to see The Lone Ranger movie July 4th. pm... Do you think I will see the old

Prospector early in the movie??  The 30min production clip I saw on TV a few days ago

did not show any Prospector????  Interesting engine slide down the track was shown.  Silver should be in the Olympics...after this production.

I can't see how they got Tonto to look so bad! Jay Silverheels who played Tonto in the 1949's never ever looked that bad.

Phillip 

Next will be the LONE RIDER with his faithful companion Fuzzy Q Jones.

The other Tonto could!  We have tickets to see the 10 am showing at the theater on July 4.  I can hardly wait.  I'll be a fun movie to watch on the big screen, with some buttered popcorn and a good crowd!  Matt

We have come a long way in making movie 'Sets' since the late forties.  We did not have a TV until '53 so can remember I believe the 7P 30 minute radio show in '47 with me sitting on the floor next to the radio (might have to keep it turned to the station so needed to sit close), mother would be reading or sewing or darning, Dad would be listening from behind the daily newspaper, and my younger sister would be playing on the floor.  Great memories --- hope to keep on making new memories--- just returned home from seeing White House Down tonight --- don't want to ever see that happen for real either - again, we have come a long way from using just a picture on the wall for scenery or maybe an outside mural as big as a billboard--- now they can digialtize anything for scenery . 

Not Keith Richards, not his grandmother, and not even Gaahl...

but 'I am Crow'

The bird was not really supposed to be on his head, but flying behind him in the painting.

Robert 

PS Here is the artist's site to give proper credit:

http://kirbysattler.sattlerartprint.com/

A train just would not be fit for use in a movie if it didn't have grab irons on the side of the cars - passenger or freight - which enable the actors to climb onto the roof of the car.

Going Wed noon....I'll let you know what I thought.....

Just found this cool preview!

We don't know that this is a "BAD" L-R movie yet, do we???  In Hollywood, the ONLY flops are those movies that don't make money.  Trust me on that....

We all have seen a bad movie that still makes money but that is beside the point. I will see the movie tomorrow, but from the reviews I have read it don't seem to be a good movie. I'll let you know.

I saw this movie tonight (it ended about 3 hours ago. Our theatre released it Tuesday.) My girlfriend and I both agree it was a well made movie and worth the price of admission to see in theatres. What has been released in trailers does not do this movie justice. I was expecting a heavily CG'ed movie and went in thinking I would be disappointed, and I was wrong on both counts. There were a few good belly laughs included. The two major train scenes are fantasy, but did not detract from the movie.

Yes, the William Tell Overture is in the movie. It is near the end, but the whole crowd cheered when the trumpet started!

If/when you guys see the movie, you will understand why Tonto affixes the bird to his head and why he painted his face the way he did.

After going back and re-reading some of the posts I skipped over, I cannot believe the amount of trash talked about this film without it being viewed in whole.

Don't ever let facts interfere with your opinion.

It seems like this movie has been promoted forever! Between the movie trailers and the TV ads I expected it to open weeks ago.

Needless to say my wife and I plan to see the movie next week.

Steve Tapper 

When I heard it was made by Disney I thought there was a good chance it wouldn't be good. Disney's formula for making movies = make enough action to grab a typical 8 year old's attention and the heck with everything else. Maybe the new Superman movie will get better reviews.

I am eagerly awaiting the release on this side of the pond.  It doesn't open here until mid August. 

Try Disney's 'Something wicked this way comes' and see what they can do when they want to......GREAT movie most have never seen.

Leaving in a few minutes to see LONE......

And inbetween, he was going after people's throats in SWEENEY TODD!

Plus it looks like the actress who played N. Lovett from TODD  is in this one too!

Critics did not like the original STAR TREK either!

Hey...don't forget that Johnny Depp is part Cherokee.

I don't know about the others, but Star Wars?  I well remember being part of the 1977 opening-night crowd for SW, and the reviews the next day were ecstatic.  I don't recall ever seeing any negative critical commentary at all.

Also JAWS is, despite what it inspired afterwards, has gone down as one of the most acclaimed movies of all time, and Steven Speilberg's best.

"Alright, let's do this"   REALLY???  Did they speak like that in the 1870s?  I expected it to be followed by "dude".

From some of my heritage...here is Crow Eagle, of the Piegan Tribe, Blackfoot Nation, Browning, MT.  He had some kind of tuft there, but did not wear an eagle on his head.

Matt

Does that mean that the bird on his head says 'Jeep' 'Jeep'?

Well, FWIW, I have my doubts that they spoke all 1950's "Leave it to Beaver" squeaky-clean back in the 1870s either.

As to Johnny Depp and his Native American heritage, it's just been vague hearsay on Depp's part since there's been no official confirmation released to date.

I do recall him saying in an interview that he said his version of Tonto will help "put right" the number of times Native Americans have been "badly portrayed" in movies to date.

I am SO not interested in this movie - sorry! Was never a Lone Ranger fan - never understood the draw.

Was that supposed to be a pun?

I tried! lol

Birds as headdresses? Certainly not unheard of:

http://urbannight.wordpress.co...dian-as-inspiration/

Well I am going to ask the wife to go on a date and see a movie tonight, while we are out seeing the Lone Ranger my son in law can sneak in the new H7.

Matt is right, beside those movies they bashed one of my favorites, GODZILLA!

again what the he-l do they know!

Seen a few reviews so far, one did warn it has some "Temple of Doom" type of gore in it (Love those beating hearts) I don't think it will a huge summer movie.

Summer has been odd, lots of very promising movies, but none have really been memorable Ironman was good, Superman sounds OK, Star Trek was meh..

Did you beat your previous record?

I'm going to see the Superman flick tonight.  I don't have high hopes for it, but I'm in the mood for a medium-size buttered popcorn w/extra butter.  I haven't heard much about the film, but I did see the trailers.  I also notice that it kind of sputtered out just a short time after opening.

Being of direct American Indinan ancestry, I too look forward as to how Tonto will

be portrayed.

Johnny Depp will be a good supporting actor.

Honestly, if I had to go back and and choose just one of these two movies to see (S/TLR), I'd choose The Lone Ranger. I couldn't wait for Superman to be over.Way over done on effects.

Unlike the TV version, in this movie Tonto will be the lead character.

I expect it to be an interesting and action packed western movie that most will enjoy.

forgot to mention...reviewers say don't bring small children to see this film. Too

much "violence" or whatever.

not wanting to spoil it for anyone not yet seeing this movie, but I do have to agree. Good thing is that if one gets tired one can always close one's eyes and nap!!

Like I said...I go mostly to get out of the house for a while and to sit back and enjoy a movie while munching some popcorn.  I don't do it often, but it's fine every once in a while.  Last truly decent movie I saw was the recent Bond film.

As it is with everything else:  Choice in film fare is a matter of different strokes for different folks.

I actually enjoyed "Man of Steel" enough to see it twice, and that is something I rarely do.  There were certain sections of the battle at the end that dragged on a little -- OK, maybe more than a little -- but that is not enough for me to pan the film.  I enjoyed it primarily because it delved deeper into the symbolism and deeper meaning of the character of Clark Kent/Kal-El and his hero's journey in becoming Superman, and the contrasting themes and philosophies between Earth and Krypton.  Personally, I think that "Man of Steel" is the best Superman film, and the best live-action version of the character that has been made to date.

Oh, and there are some trains in it, too.

Andy

I thought "Man of Steel" was good!  I've heard mixed reviews about Lone Ranger.  The boss and I are going on a movie date tomorrow to see Lone Ranger...we'll know then.  Some movies are more fun to see at the theaters.  We like going to the movies.  I'm not gonna wait for every movie to come out on Netflix or DVD.  Matt

The reviews seem to be uniform at least....  We will see the movie in a couple of hours.  

In the meantime, here's the REAL Lone Ranger's (Clayton Moore) mask c. 1950 (from the Gene Autry Museum, Los Angeles, collection).

Saw the movie this afternoon and my buddy was right- it sucks. It has some funny moments but I am very disappointed. Being a big Lone Ranger fan I was hoping for better but I guess Hollywood just can't make a decent Lone Ranger movie. They have had 3 chances and dropped the ball all three times. A waste of money IMO. 

I'd give the new Superman film a 6 out of 10 - great actors, excellent soundtrack, decent storytelling, but full of over-the-top destruction, melodrama and cliche's. Still one of the better movies this Summer.

And all my friends and I very much enjoyed Skyfall

It was that whole "Jack Sparrow as Tonto" thing wasn't it?  Johnny Depp, worlds most overated actor. Who can forget the other classic that he ruined.

Guess what movie I'm planning to see?

Jerry

The lighter side of the Lone Ranger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5vHYpjaUko

Rusty

The Dilemma...

Go see a movie in a theater or buy something train related?????

 Tinplate Marx Girard Station wins...

I'll buy the Lone Ranger video when it's released.

SWMBO wants to see Despicable Me II, 

so that is what we'll go see.

But when you've just got to have your 

Oater fix....

http://www.westernmania.com/

Dave

I will definitely be seeing this movie! Crazy Johnny Depp, trains, and silver bullets!!  What's not to like!!!  

Well, at least the people building the RR back ten did not have to worry about the FRA!