jmiller320 posted:The diesel would not respond to commands and was pushing the 844 while it had it's brakes locked up.
This has been discussed many times. That's one of the many stories that was told by E. D. The facts are that E.D. forgot to turn off the trailing diesel and panicked. Jack can explain better than all of us, as I believe he designed it.
Actually I should have phrased it "how do you get flat areas...."
A couple of ways to Skid wheels..... Failure to bail off the engine brakes in the event of a Emergency brake application, In the event of a collision you may not want to bail off the independent brake but to abandon ship.
Reverser in reverse while engine is going forward.
Rolling stock..... hand brake or brake retainer "on" or just a sticky brake that doesn't want to release. (bleed off and cut brake out. (except dangerous commodities)
I don't know what happened to the 844 or how serious it was. Hopefully it's been resolved.
Gregg posted:I don't know what happened to the 844 or how serious it was. Hopefully it's been resolved.
Very serious. As mentioned above, the sharp edges of the flat spot would've damaged the rail every revolution. They had to take grinders and smooth out the edges of the flat spots enough to prevent rail damage, then they took the engine to I believe the Texas railway museum. There they were able to drop all 4 sets of drivers and send them to facilities with wheel lathes to have the tires turned down to remove the flats. Then the wheelsets were trucked back to the engine and put back up in the saddles. A very costly mistake.
I think it was a local shortline RR shop.
Interesting, Anyone know who the hogger is, He seems qualified to me.....
I don't know about other engineers, but I never got out of the seat like at 13:36 while making a shove move. That's kind of scary.
steam fan posted:Gregg posted:I don't know what happened to the 844 or how serious it was. Hopefully it's been resolved.
Very serious. As mentioned above, the sharp edges of the flat spot would've damaged the rail every revolution. They had to take grinders and smooth out the edges of the flat spots enough to prevent rail damage, then they took the engine to I believe the Texas railway museum. There they were able to drop all 4 sets of drivers and send them to facilities with wheel lathes to have the tires turned down to remove the flats. Then the wheelsets were trucked back to the engine and put back up in the saddles. A very costly mistake.
I would imagine that turning the drivers down reduced the lifespan of those driver tires.
Hi GREGG / Thanks for sharing this You Tube Video. Yes: Ed is qualified. A fortune 500 company put him in charge. Well done U.P. "Ed is a true credit to the UP, and a legend to railfans. Keep it steamin'..."
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trainroomgary posted:Hi GREGG / Thanks for sharing this You Tube Video. Yes: Ed is qualified. A fortune 500 company put him in charge. Well done U.P. "Ed is a true credit to the UP, and a legend to railfans. Keep it steamin'..."
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I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Sippin' on that kool-aid and making the assumption he's qualified based off a Youtube video. 
The truth will set you free! or... "You can't handle the truth!" Either one can apply here. 
Since Nick Valdez is the unofficial PR guy for Ed Dickens, why would we expect anything other Nick drooling all over him? Nick has been given inside access. No Ed, no access.
trainroomgary posted:Yes: Ed is qualified. A fortune 500 company put him in charge.
Have you worked for many Fortune 500 companies? I've worked for a couple on that list, and trust me, there are plenty of people who are farthest from qualified put in charge. One of them I was the one doing his work!
Spoony81 posted:I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Hi Spoony81 • Thanks for reposting the truth about Ed Dickens, I am a Model Railroader & a Railfan - Ed is bringing back railroad history. The OGR Forum & Magazine, target audience is for Model Railroaders.
Thanks for sharing your skills with your use of the king's language, “I think I just threw up in my mouth”. Have a great day, take two aspirins & you will be just fine. 
Gary
Special note to Jmiller320 - note the moderation and post deletions in the UP thread over on the trainorders.com site which you recently joined because you were unhappy with the moderation here.
ALL your posts over there were deleted. That ought to tell you something.
Enough is enough. This thread has gotten personal on both sides. We're all done here. Feel free to start another thread on the UP Steam Department if you wish. Just keep the personal attacks out of it.
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