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I’m going to pick on Kelunaboy here, but I see this all the time from many other people as well.

 

For this type of thread to have ANY use to the manufactures the term “reasonable price” has to be defined by dollars. It is of zero help to say “reasonable price” because in this case, Kelunaboy might mean $600,00 dollars and reasonable price might mean $300.00 to someone else.

 

As a manufacture, (not toy trains) we only move on projects when the dollars and quantity are known, sometimes even before we know if the project can be accomplished technically.

 

So… Kelunaboy, what, in terms of dollars, do you think is a reasonable buying price?

 

Charlie

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I think what would really sell (as I'm sure it's been mentioned several times already) and what I'd love to operate is a conventional / legacy / whatever 2-4-4-2 (or comparable) articulated little logging mallet like the one shown at the Northwest Railway Museum: https://www.trainmuseum.org/in.../steam-locomotive-11

 

Also. A small Geared locomotive that isn't $Rediculous.

 

The reason for this is because I see a few people in this scale / gauge who are into or in need of a small layout. These would maximize the play-ability for the gauge in the space allowed. Plus... Geared stuff is really cool. Where there's a few people after certain items, more are bound to follow if it's a good quality. I'd build a logging / mining railway specifically for these two.

 

Edit: And they have to be small enough to get around a curve tighter than O27

 

 

 

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Would be nice to have some 4 axle GE power like the B36-7.  

Their original owners included Seaboard System, Santa Fe, Southern, Conrail, and Southern Pacific.  CSX and Norfolk Southern acquired some through mergers and CSX used them until the late 2000's.  Even though new tooling is a risk multiple railroads used them.  Also they would be able to be used on smaller layouts with 0-31/0-36 radius curves.  You could also use some of the tooling to make B30-7's, and B23-7's.

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I think what would really sell (as I'm sure it's been mentioned several times already) and what I'd love to operate is a conventional / legacy / whatever 2-4-4-2 (or comparable) articulated little logging mallet like the one shown at the Northwest Railway Museum: https://www.trainmuseum.org/in.../steam-locomotive-11

 

US Plywood 11 is a 2-6-6-2.  I would love to see a scale model of any of the Baldwin logging mallets.  Mantua did well with their many versions in HO.  However, the O scale market does not appear to be very interested in a small articulated.  Sunset recently announced Rayonier/Sierra 38 and received a very modest response.  I dont see Lionel or MTH investing over $100,000 in tooling for a logging engine in today's market.

 

But if anyone does, I'll take two. 

 

 

 

 

I think the idea of a "reasonable" price is dependent somewhat on the reputation of the manufacturer/importer of the product being discussed, and some manufacturers are a better fit for certain products.

 

One hypothetical example:

 

A Sunset/3rd Rail Alco C415 is probably very well priced at $649.00, while an Atlas Trainman version of the same locomotive might well be lacking perceived value at anything over a "street" price of $249.00.

 

Both manufacturers versions of that loco might be good products, but there are lots of variables involved that need to be addressed before either maker would consider moving forward on producing that model.

 

A lot of factors go into what a potential customer's idea of "value" is--and some of those factors are within the control of the manufacturer and some are not.

 

Jeff C

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The reason the SECOND Third Rail logging 2-6-6-2 was not successful, is that it was

the SECOND obscure loco not widely known even to those who followed all the Heislers,

Climaxes, and Shays that operated on west coast logging roads such as Westside. But

trying to get a small Mallet is like trying to get a small version of any of the three

(and more..Dunkirk, etc.) logging locos.  I do see a lot of other voices above that

would also like to see the small steamers that once operated everywhere.   When it comes to logging, in the eastern population centers, the names are Cass and Little River, as well as others operated in Michigan, New England, Pennsylvania, and the

cypress swamps of the south.  There must be hundreds of books on these, so somebody else is intereted.

Lima Switcher or even road switcher.   Alco T6.  N&W Class S1 / S1a.   FM junior TM, H16-66.  An accurate PRR H8/ 9; modernized, with ultra low side tender....in 2/3 and 3/2.  An Atlas GP9  Phase 3 with 48" cap tops.  The last item would out sell all the others combined....but they would still be good choices.

Honestly? Decent design t-shirts for the hobby that don't make the wearer look like he's completely fashion-retarded.

I see vendors at shows with RR-related shirts and I wouldn't wear 99.9% of them if I were paid to do so, even in the privacy of my own home!

Seriously, who buys and wears stuff like this?

Railroad museums and scenic railroads have some beautiful T-shirts in their gift shops and online, but all for prototype railroads, not model trains. The only shirts I could imagine anybody wanting in the toy/model train field would feature the classic Lionel catalog covers of the pre- and postwar periods.

 

Speaking for myself, there is zero point zero possibility that I would buy or wear a purple shirt with an MTH logo, or Lionel orange and blue. I do have a polo shirt with a nice conservative Weaver logo, but I ONLY wear it to train shows. 

 

Originally Posted by Dr. Jack:

Laidoffsick is right on.  A container ship and more importantly a dockside crane even if the ship has'n arrived in port.  

 

Jack

You can buy a Container ship hull that is about 70" long,  you can see it on the AGHR web site.

I sold the mold to William Upshaw who owns the Scale Ship Yard in Long Beach CA.

Scale Ship Yard  http://scaleshipyard.com/Main%20Pages/main.html

AGHR  http://www.angelsgatehirailers.org/photo-gallery.html

John

Originally Posted by taycotrains:

This...

 

 

2010899241_CNJ Baldwin double ender Red Ball

This is a locomotive I would definitely sink my dollars into!!!  Would love to have one ... or possibly 2!    Hopefully it would handle 0-42 curves.   Neat if a manufacturer would make and offer two liveries - one in demonstrator livery and the other in Jersey Central ( I think JC was the only RR in the states to have these locos? ) I'm on board for this locomotive!!  AND I think it would sell well ( in the $ 500 - $650 range )  due to the fact that it is prototypical on the JC and never has been made in O gauge ( to my knowledge ).  This loco would spark questions from layout visitors, I'm sure!

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Another item that I think would sell that perhaps Sunset models could consider ( since they do limited runs )  is a larger rotary snow plow like the ones presently used by BNSF and UP.   MTH makes a smaller steam version ( based on the DRGW narrow gauge )  ..  which is nice but a big un would be awesome!  Working lights, rotary blade, and sound would be quite enticing.... perhaps with a smoking B unit with sound that revs up as the blade turns faster ... in the appropriate  road name too!   

 

A 4 - 8 - 0 steam loco like the #475 ( originally a N&W loco ) now on the Strassburg.  These locos ( with spark arrestor stacks ) were indigenous  to the Abington branch of the N&W pulling the Creeper.   It would be a good seller as the wheel arrangement is uncommon and it would fare well on sharper diameter curves ... perhaps O - 36 or 0 -42 for scale.... and O - 32 in semi scale.  These locos were also used throughout the N&W system and used on model railroads they could haul passenger, mixed, and freight trains. 

 

How bout some road names not ever done in O gauge ... in my area there is the Chesapeake Beach Railway, interurbans of the Washington Baltimore and Annapolis Electric Railway, ( MTH put out an end cab switcher in Baltimore & Annapolis markings with a calf and a caboose too ), Washington Terminal Company steam and first generation diesel locos.( Atlas O did offer a WTC RS 1 a few years back ... I bought one but this particular unit was a lemon ... went back to Atlas 4 times and problem could not be corrected ... no reflection of Atlas O, ocassional lemons happen to all manufactures ... I wanted to purchase another of the same but they were sold out )   I would think that there are those who would purchase products made in these road names.... what do you think MTH?   AND I know there are many small road names, switching roads, and industrial roads, that have not been produced yet... from all over the country and Canada.

 

How about cab sounds with authentic railway parlance?  

 

How bout a station in which the  purchaser could record their own voice for trains arriving and departure ... and public service announcements ... like " little boy lost "  or " Ms. so and so please report to the station masters office" or " for a good show ride the B&O"... you get the idea.   Before guests arrive  you could even pre - record announcements using their names   How cool would that be !!!  Heck you could even record a "happy anniversary message for your wife" ... what better way to leverage more real-estate  or get a free pass on that favorite loco you have always wanted

 

Freight cars that individually uncouple with out the aid of a remote control uncoupling track.  I don't know how the technology could be created but it seems to me that there might eventually be away down for this to happen thats affordable.  The first model train manufacturer who patents this technology to retail at an inexpensive price will definitely have the market cornered.  

 

Just a few thoughts.

 

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Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.

 

 EvansAutoLoader

 

 

I haven't read through all the posts yet, so someone may have mentioned this already, K Line these cars, and did a very nice job on them, They were available in Union Pacific, NYC and Pennsy as well as Coca Cola and maybe some that I am not aware of. The K Line cars come up on the secondary market quite frequently, and usually get $65.00 and above plus shipping.

 

Having already been produced, they don't fit the topic of this thread, but if someone was to acquire the tooling for them, I believe they would sell well, especially if more road names were offered.

 

Doug

I have one of the K-Line cars. It's not really a scale model. It's about the right length, but it's a bit narrow and there's no detail. I'd like to see a genuine scale model, complete with correct, 1/48 period cars, not T-Birds and Volkswagens because they are the only 1/43 cars that will fit.
 
Originally Posted by challenger3980:
Originally Posted by Southwest Hiawatha:

Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.

 

 EvansAutoLoader

 

 

I haven't read through all the posts yet, so someone may have mentioned this already, K Line these cars, and did a very nice job on them, They were available in Union Pacific, NYC and Pennsy as well as Coca Cola and maybe some that I am not aware of. The K Line cars come up on the secondary market quite frequently, and usually get $65.00 and above plus shipping.

 

Having already been produced, they don't fit the topic of this thread, but if someone was to acquire the tooling for them, I believe they would sell well, especially if more road names were offered.

 

Doug

 

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