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I've been experimenting with PolySwitches (look here for more info) for short circuit protection and would like to find out if others are doing (or have done) so, and what your results were?

I used an RXEF375 which is rated at 3.75amps holding current and 7.5 amps trip current - max voltage is 72v. I wired a 16.8v bulb directly across the polyswitch so I would know when it tripped. I found that it will trip with a dead short (powered by a 275w ZW at 14v) in about 2 to 3 seconds, about the same or maybe even a tad slower than my 8 amp thermal (mechanical) breaker. Frankly, I was hoping for better. I also have obtained some RXEF-300 - their holding current is 3.0 amps with a trip current of 6.0 amps - haven't tried them yet, but I would anticipate similar results.

My goal is to provide cheap but quick protection for my wiring and transformer. Ironically I've been experimenting with these allowing them to short circuit right through my home made whistle/bell controller tat uses 6 amp diodes. Nothing died yet!

Also interesting - when I shorted the circuit, I was running a conventional diesel, a couple of switches & signals - total draw varied from 2.5 to 3 amps depending on which signal(s) were running. After tripping the polyfuse and then removing the short, the "short" light stayed on for 30+ minutes, never did turn off (reset.) Total current draw was down to 0.6 amps, with train still on the track and switch bulbs barely lit, but the "short" lite remained on and the polyfuse remained open (and hot) because of the current draw. When I shut the power off, the polyfuse reset in about 3 seconds, and all was good to go again.

Conclusion? They work, and at less than a dollar each, they are cost effective. Resetting is automatic when power is shut off. They are fairly quick, but I would like something that trips in less than one second. So, these will do for the time being. One thing I don't know is life cycle - not sure how many times they will work before giving up.

Anyone else tried these?

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I use a PTC for installations when I have the Cruise Commander Lite, I put one in the motor leads.  I use a 1A trip model, and I've only been able to trip one by really overloading the locomotive.  It's only there to protect against motor stalls.

I use a 1.65 trip model in a tether for a steamer if I'm sharing the pickup rollers for reliability.  Since it rarely sees a load in normal operation, I've never had one of those trip, but I've also never cooked the tether since using them.

Like John I've placed them in tmcc engines after frying a few boards. I used RUE300 3A 30volt and haven't lost a board since.  Since then I've also added 1.5ke36ca transient voltage suppressors across the output of the transformer where it attaches to the track. Putting the tvs in the engines is tempting too but I haven't tried it yet. The advantage to putting it in the engine is when you take your engine on the road and run on a club or friends layout. 

Big_Boy_4005 posted:

I use the 6 Amp variety, one per power district.

Here they are on one of my power distribution panels.

I agree that the reaction time is a little slow on these.

I also want to put something like a 2 Amp version in my engines to protect the electronics.

First of all, gorgeous wiring job! That clearly took some time, effort and $$. Hoping it has paid off for you.

Secondly, I totally like GRJ's approach to protecting engines through the use of relatively low trip point (1a and 1.65a) PTCs. If I ever scrape together enuff $ to buy the type of engine/electronics that need protection (I have mostly PW stuff), I will buy a range of the devices just to see what works best for each engine.

I had one odd ball experience with PTCs and I have not figured out what happened.  I added the PTCs where the wire busses from my transformers went out to the track and accessories.   One of them actually started burning one evening with a real flame. I think this one was on the output of a KW but it was a few years ago.  I was in such a panic I wish i had paid more attention to what was going on at the time.  I have to guess at this point that I had a load on it that was greater than five amps but not enough to trip it. The ones I bought are marked with the beta symbol which I think is Bourne, rg 500 0334s.  Needless to say, I am using glass fuses now.....

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