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It seems that tinplate and post war trains have always held a fascination in the hobby, and for good reason, they are both great display pieces and a blast to operate.  But outside of the legendary 700e and its little brother the 701, there are few if any remakes or reissues of other early diecast locomotives.  Even the 700e’s sister locomotive the 763e seems to have been forgotten in the plethora of reissues since the 1980s.  What of the other locomotives from that same time like the 225e and the 226e?  These locomotives had unique looks and helped bridge the gap between tinplate and the “scale detailed” look of postwar trains.  Why is it you think that these locomotives have not been reissued?  Are they stuck between two worlds, tinplate and postwar and thus lack a devoted fan base or place to fit in (like this thread), or is it because the dies themselves were modified in the post war years?

 

This is meant to be a light hearted brainstorming thread, not another one of those threads asking X mfg. to make Y locomotive.

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Lionel made a modernized 763E around 15 years ago. It has an early version of TMCC and an open frame motor. I have one; it doesn't fit my theme but I just like the looks of it with the Scullin drivers and Vanderbilt tender. Here it is with a Rail Chief set, also a repro.  Click on photo for a better look. 

RailChief and 763E-1

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Not sure I'm wholly on target here, but....

 

I thought that this segment of historical reissues/reproductions had been given over to Lionel Corporation Tinplate (MTH), who, IMHO, have been doing a very good job of meeting these needs?

 

Some of Lionel's more recent reissues of early postwar trains/engines seemed to linger the longest on the shelf of our (LHS) store. 

 

Perhaps there's a clue in answer to your OP?

 

KD

Originally Posted by Tinplate Art:

The more recent open-frame motors have had overheating issues, and are apparently not up to prewar Lionel standards, which were essentially "bulletproof"! 

Why opt for foreign made & modern innards when there are enough vintage USA made "bulletproof" (as Tinplate Art correctly says) stuff still circulating? Just my 2 cents.

 

I know I am in the minority here!

Tom

Dies don't last forever and some of the older ones probably were changed, not worth making new ones. The marketplace rules, I would guess there is not enough demand for the older engines. I look for the originals and you can still find decent ones at affordable prices. I guess some of the people  running the new fancy control systems might like to run the oldies that way.

I'm not really in this group - except marginally.

 

I just received a Legacy SOU GP-30; do everything but wax your floors, even using plain TMCC.

 

BUT: last month I purchased on Mr. Bay a tender-less 1666 2-6-2 in runner-restored shape. I had a modern tender that "matched" one of those that came with the loco. Painted it. Why do this? I like the looks of the loco; would like to put an ERR AC Commander in it, one day...

 

Would prefer if it had a modern can motor (for cruise) - even though it runs very well..

 

And, though actually PW, I would dearly love to see Lionel offer a 2-6-4 221 "Dreyfus" with modern innards. Maybe the LCCA will do it. I have a small 221 collection (5 locos/tenders), and one of them got a second-rate "restoration" (not by me) a few years ago...I'd love to put an AC Commander in it. Runs so-so, and I have never been able to satisfactorily tune up these old things, anyway, regardless of the stories. Modern I understand.

 

My point: some of us (even hi-railers like me) like some of the old look, but would enjoy

it upgraded internally (like much of the "Tinplate" stuff). I know a lot of you don't get it, but standing at a transformer and doing F-N-R got old around 1960 - even with the stuff that ran well (not all of it does, be honest).

 

And, though well-made for sure, since when does "bulletproof" apply to things that need occasional repair? Good? Yes. Perfect? Naw; I've owned it.

 

But I guess that I'm the one in the minority. That's OK.

I'm usually in the camp of "buy original", and I have very few reproductions pieces (a few houses, telephone poles, and a crane since the original motors could be trouble), but the idea D500 mentioned is a good one, in response to a Lionel 221. I think it could be a great Lionchief Plus engine, if Lionel (or MTH wanted to do it), with some add on passenger cars.

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