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My dad called me last night to tell me about his latest eBay acquisition.  He loves projects and purchased what was advertised as an unknown S Gauge GP9 with two frames and extra electronics.  When it arrived, it turned out to be an early MTH GP9 with Protosounds in O gauge.  I talked with him for a while about what he could do to replace the boards with Proto-2 boards or a Williams board and his comment back to me was, "I bought this as a project so I want to rebuild it to its original condition".  I should have known better.  After 28 years with Bell Labs my dad still restores computers for people in his hometown at no charge just for the enjoyment of it.  This is more of an exercise for him of learning how to restore the original electronics than bringing it up to newer technology. 

 

As a result, he is looking for a few things.  One is a wiring diagram for how to wire the Protosounds board back into the unit.  Several wires were cut by a prior owner.  The other item is a circuit diagram for the actual QSI board.  He is looking to replace any faulty components from a second board that came with the project.  Are either of these available?  If so, where would one go to find them?  

 

Thanks for all your help in advance. 

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I buy DOA locos all the time....sometimes on purpose!  But rather than 'fix' old MTH boards or buy upgrades I just replace with a WbB board. These WERE easy to find and cheap.....but seems to have dried up....so I switched to Dallee which are close to the WbB unit price wise and about as bullet proof so far. Gut 'em and add a Dallee is the most simple.

 

PS wiring diagrams for all Dallee products are on his website. 

Last edited by AMCDave
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

The big difference Dave is, you get no sound with the Dallee solution.  You can buy used PS/1 boards for less than the Dallee unit, and you can transplant the sound chip from the dead locomotive to the new board.

 

Dallee has sound boards too......but that's not a important issue for me.

I DO NOT trust any used MTH boards......I have a voltmeter and a basic working knowledge but any and all MTH boards are beyond my pay grade.....I work within a structure I fully understand.....to old to learn a bunch of new electronics!

 

Just depends on what you want in an end result....I just want them to RUN!

Originally Posted by pennsydave:

Maybe this will help.  I forget who did this but it is correct.  

 

 

Nice diagram Dave, I'm going to keep that one.

 

 

Originally Posted by AMCDave:
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

The big difference Dave is, you get no sound with the Dallee solution.  You can buy used PS/1 boards for less than the Dallee unit, and you can transplant the sound chip from the dead locomotive to the new board.

 

Dallee has sound boards too......but that's not a important issue for me.

I DO NOT trust any used MTH boards......I have a voltmeter and a basic working knowledge but any and all MTH boards are beyond my pay grade.....I work within a structure I fully understand.....to old to learn a bunch of new electronics!

 

Just depends on what you want in an end result....I just want them to RUN!

If you buy a Dallee reverse unit and a Dallee sound board, you'll have probably three times the money that just picking up a used PS/1 board will set you back.  I can afford to buy several PS/1 boards and still be money ahead.

 

Your method is fine, just not the way I'd do it.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

If you buy a Dallee reverse unit and a Dallee sound board, you'll have probably three times the money that just picking up a used PS/1 board will set you back.  I can afford to buy several PS/1 boards and still be money ahead.

 

Your method is fine, just not the way I'd do it.

I don't do sound so I get out pretty cheap with the basic reverse unit. One thing about my hobbies be it model trains or muscle cars....I have to understand them 100% and able to service them 100%......and that's what's great...to each his own.

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