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Not too long ago there was a thread about surviving wood-side billboard reefers, which disappeared in the 1930s after Federal regulations banned advertising on railroad cars. At least as discussed on that thread, there were no originals left that anyone could name (the Coors car at the Colorado State Railroad Museum is a wood-side reefer, but is a repaint to represent the original Coors reefers). Well, there's at least one. Here's an article from 2014 about an original one (a 36' woodside reefer) that was discovered in Indianapolis, and which will be preserved. Pretty interesting story. There's also a nice video at the site with a narrator discussing the car, and more photos.

'Reliable Sliced Bacon' train car on track for restoration

, barb.berggoetz@indystar.com9:05 a.m. EDT March 24, 2014

Some 75 years ago, a refrigerator line train car that played a key role in a thriving Indianapolis meatpacking industry was taken out of service.

The car was protected for decades, used for storage inside a building that had been constructed around it. Now the 104-year-old relic is on its way to being restored for the public to enjoy.

The nonprofit Indiana Transportation Museum rescued the former Kingan Co.'s "Reliable Sliced Bacon" car from its former Downtown home on Friday. It moved the 12-ton car — lightweight compared with today's cars — to Kirklin, about 35 miles northwest in Clinton County, for safekeeping.

 

1910 train car saved from building demolition goes to Indiana Transportation Museum

"We're very, very lucky to be able to save the car," said Craig Presler, a museum volunteer. "We'll eventually be putting it back together.

"Ultimately, we'd like to get the train car operational," he added, though he couldn't predict when that would occur. "Trains are more fun when they run."

The car has historical significance to the city and Indiana.

Kingan Co., the first company to sell sliced bacon, was the biggest meat-packing company in the city and was a big employer here, Presler said. In the early 1900s, he said, meatpacking of beef and pork was the biggest industry in the state. One of Kingan's customers invented the method of preserving meat with ice, allowing meat to be shipped all over the nation in ice-filled cars year-round, Presler said.

The Noblesville-based museum, which restores train cars, obtained the car through a donation by Brian Fahle, CEO and president of Indianapolis apparel merchandising company Main Event Merchandise Group.

Fahle bought the property at 925 E. Vermont St. sight unseen a few years ago as an investment and didn't realize the train car was in the warehouse.

Recently, while he and his wife, Karen, were in the process of selling the property to a dog day care business, he said his real estate agent told him that the museum wanted to restore it.

"I thought the train was really cool, and I was looking for somebody to make better use of it than I could," said Fahle, an Indianapolis native.

The train car had been stored there by Kosnick Supply Co., a lumber supply firm. The company used the car to store all of its paper records for running the business, Presler said.

"They called it the closet. They uncovered it when closing down the business," he said. "We got a good look at it about 10 years ago, and we've been ... waiting for it to become available."

On Friday, a demolition contractor carefully took down the building around the car until 18 museum volunteers and a heavy-equipment mover were able to put the car onto a semitrailer using a forklift.

By today's standards, the car is small: 36 feet long, 9 feet wide and 9 feet tall. There are two hatches on the top of the car where ice was dropped.

The car will need repainting and new brakes, couplings and an undercarriage. But museum volunteers were surprised to find the car, built in 1910, in such good shape.

"Because it was indoors all these years, it's just in amazing condition," Presler said.

The museum operates more than 100 restored train cars for the State Fair FairTrain, Polar Bear Express and other public events and charter trips.

The car still has the original painting, including the wording "Kingan refrigerator line" and "reliable sliced bacon."

Cars like this one, known as billboard cars, were painted elaborately for advertising until the federal government said they couldn't be used for that purpose, Presler said.

"It's going to take time and money to make everything fit," he said. "But it will get repainted, I'm sure. It will look exactly like it did when it was in service."

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  I sincerely hope they don't repaint it.  The option any number of museum/preservation groups choose is to stabilize whatever it is they have and then take pains to preserves as much of the original as possible.  For example, in the antique car hobby there is the HPOF class (Historical Preservation of Original Features) which encourages just this kind of effort.

colorado hirailer posted:

Fantastic!  But if they repaint it, won't that make it more like the Coor's car at Golden?  Is this one of the cars that Atlas has done....I did not realize that Kingan was Hoosier headquartered?

The major difference is that this car is in fact an genuine original Kingan car. The repaint will be exactly the same as the original now on the car, and painted right over the original paint. Really, it's just a refreshing of the original paint on the original car.

I'm not sure if we should think of cars like this the same as many folks think of Postwar trains, that is, that a person shouldn't repaint them but leave them with their original paint. Maybe it would be better to leave it as it is. That said, the paint probably has already changed in some ways since the day it left the rails. Perhaps those who think it should be preserved in as-is condition should contact the preservation group and voice their opinion and get some more information.

The Coors car was not originally a Coors car but some other wood-side reefer that was completely repainted to represent a Coors car. It's nice (I've seen it several times) and is an actual wood-side reefer, but it was never a Coors reefer, and may have some differences from the original Coors versions.

Atlas O has done a Kingan's 36' reefer, but it had a different paint scheme.

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Robert S. Butler posted:

  I sincerely hope they don't repaint it.  The option any number of museum/preservation groups choose is to stabilize whatever it is they have and then take pains to preserves as much of the original as possible.  For example, in the antique car hobby there is the HPOF class (Historical Preservation of Original Features) which encourages just this kind of effort.

Railroad equipment is like the legendary axe:  The head's been replaced twice and the handle three times, but it's the same axe...

It's already going to need a new underframe and other hardware according to the press release, so it's hardly going to be all original.

Doubtless they're going to find some lumber that needs to be replaced or rotted portions be removed.  The car will be more valuable as a display and possible operation fully restored than if left in it's present paint.

Rusty

Rusty,

   I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.  The thing that makes that car unique is the original paint scheme. True it may have worn several ads for Kingan's but the paint scheme it has is the one it wore on its last day of commercial service , wipe that out with any kind over painting and it is just another car. 

    For me the situation of that car is the same as the B-26 Marauder "Flak Bait" in the Smithsonian collection.  If you took that plane, removed the old paint, reworked the fuselage to remove all of the patches applied to repair flak damage,  straightened and corrected everything and brought it back to mint condition what you would have would be an airframe bearing the same serial number as Flak Bait and there would be nothing of the preserved item to distinguish it from any other well restored B26.  The good news for Flak Bait is that the focus of its preservation effort is one of preserving it as it looked on its last day of combat which means, among many other things, preserving the paint that is currently on the plane.

  In this case, rebuild the under frame - sure - no problem  - that is a stability issue which is necessary to guarantee the car's existence, carefully replace rotted wood that if left unattended would cause the stability problems - again, no problem but repaint it and fix every last problem with the car body and, as far as I'm concerned, all you have is the Coor's reefer. 

 

 

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