I took a chance and pre-ordered one...catalog illustrations make me a little apprehensive. I have the Lionel scale Hiawatha cars from about 10 years ago plus the streamliners that were released when the first issue of the S-3's came out, and these and the Hiawatha S-3 should make a fantastic consist. Until it comes in I have a LOT of selling to do in order to pay for this and the new PE cars.