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@Ukaflyer posted:

And this is the problem, they align what people want in the O gauge world and translate it to the S gauge world thinking this is what we want. How many people have said that this doesn’t work and they still don’t listen.

I can’t remember the number of years that so many people have said why don’t they produce the SD40. This just proves that they really are not listening.

Perhaps the truth is that they don’t wish to promote S because if it did become a growing sector then it will eat into the O market. At the end of the day they would be in a win win situation but perhaps they don’t see this as an advantage in sales.

100% Agree.  When I look at the NASG list of produced locomotives - it's basically a list of the roads and models I see mass produced in every scale  (Except the AM 2900 class Northern - that took some balls!).  The roads reflect that with most attention paid to SP, UP, NYC, and the PA.

The current approach is certainly based-in how it's always been done operations - where O and S were in competition.  Now that S is basically in the hands of Lionel, you'd think they'd want to control who goes where - selling S to a specific group and O to a specific group.   Otherwise, why even bother producing both?  They are "close enough" to one another - that producing everything in both can't be financially viable.

I could envision a targeted approach - producing western roads in S and eastern roads in O.  I mean, that's already the case - other than SP / UP - HO tends to be more popular for the West, O for the east.

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