Thank you for the share, Carl. That helps my confidence about loops. I've been making plenty of trees, so I plan to make a good portion of the layout wooded, especially the mountain area and near the rock features. I'm looking to model a winter scene in an eastern PA town. Here is what I have been working on recently. Two ovals, the inner has some flexibility to it and goes through the town. At some point, I will probably be adding a bump and go route somewhere in the city. I'll be adding several more buildings and houses, and lights in the near future to populate that middle section. I'm interested to hear what you guys think about adding a third loop, probably all elevated, using the rock features along the back wall. I'm willing to play with the exact location of the lake in that area. It's going to be a ice skating/park area. It would be best not to block the lake much, since I plan to spend a lot of time making that a big focal point. And, is there any way to make the yard area a tad more efficient? It would also be great for the outer loop to have access to the yard somehow, mostly just to be able to swap out engines and keep the same consist. The outer ground loop and elevated loop will be passenger, the inner ground loop will be mixed freight.