I gotta say that this statement confuses me:
The advent of car leasing has actually raised the MSRP of a automobile above it true street value. So, You state there is a advantage in getting a discount on a MSRP that may be "Jacked Up" in the first place?
I have bought two vehicles in the last two years and haven't noticed this. When I have priced a new car and a one or two year old of the same model, the new car was what I would expect the price to be.
I actually was able to negotiate the price down on both vehicles to less than what a one year old (used) model would cost.
Jim