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Reply to "American Flyer #0 & #1 engines c. 1907 to 1917"

@Bob Bubeck posted:


Attached is a picture of a No. 1 with gold (as in not yellow) trim paint in various locations, two bands, no boiler rivets, no drive rods, black wheels. It appears to be an apparent variation different from the ones you have pictured. I tend to believe that the piece is circa 1912, but please feel free to comment.

No. 1 no rivets or drive rods




The casting details certainly date it to the 1912-1915 era as it does not have the cast rivet detail and has the two boiler bands.  I can't make out the stripe detail/color very well in the photo you posted.

Something appears incorrect with the motor versus the age of the casting, as the key is a later style key, which makes me think that the motor is incorrect for your casting.  That style of key threads on to a post that protrudes from the motor.  All motors for this engine from 1907 to 1915 have keys that are threaded and screw into the side of the motor.  The key is also on the wrong side of the motor, for the earlier motors.  The 1916-1917 motors have a different design, which uses that key and has the key on the same side of the motor that you pictured.  Additionally, your photo does not show the wheel style very good, but they do not appear to be 6-spoke wheels, which again point to the motor being a later motor in an earlier casting. 

It could be possible that this is a transition motor from 1916 that uses the earlier style casting with later motor, but I cannot be certain and the color of the stripe below the window appears wrong for the 1916 era, as to my knowledge the stripes were always red on the later engines.


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