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Reply to "Anyone else had newer Lionel Flyer PA side-frames falling off?"

@romiller49 posted:

Can you be more specific. Did they fall off as in break off or did the screws just come out.

Rod, I posted a reply earlier today but I don't see it here, so apologies if this is a duplicate.  I did not actually see the defect.  As soon as the seller discovered the loose side-frames (all of them) he wisely chose to take it off sale.  He is considering an epoxy repair. As described it is the 6-48147 ATSF blue freight AA set from 2009 NOS.  The side-frames had separated from the geared trucks, not just loose screws.  Tom's photo above of a Legacy PA shows the modern Legacy PA truck with a screw mounted very thin side-frame. I do not know how much this design is similar to the new trucks from 2009 and 2010 PA sets like the Santa Fe or Rio Grande. The Gilbert side-frames were thick and connected to their frames by a peened and spread "button" of cast material from the side-frame.  I am asking for input from someone with one of the these 2009 or 2010 sets to weigh in on their design and/or possible defects.  It is super odd to have all the side-frames loose in a new old stock, un-run set.  Parts are not available from Lionel.  Sorry I do not have the photos we would all like to have.

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