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Reply to "Approximate year of mfg..or how to use serial # of my LIONEL AMTRAK #960 GE60"

Gene H posted:

In the late 1970s Williams made a E60 body kit but you had to salvage motors, e unit and trucks from a Lionel F3 or GP unit. In the 1980s Williams started selling them ready to run with can motors etc. Williams quit making the E60 around 2000. 

Thank you..funny how the chassis frame looks EERILIE like my B&M GP 😀

Überstationmeister posted:

Lionel was not directly involved- Williams made the body and frame as a kit. The buyer supplied his/her own motor, reverse unit, fuel tank, etc. from a pre-existing Lionel diesel. You have a very early Williams GE 60 from the 1980s.

😀🚊👍thanks again

Bill DeBrooke posted:

The Williams E60 Amtrak engine was released in 1980.  You had to find scrounge trucks, motor or motors and e unit from a Lionel Geep.  There were 2000 produced.  The following year because of the success of the Amtrak model they released six more road names.  About 100 each were made.  They are usually found with Lionel four wheel trucks and either one or two motors.  One motor did not pull well.  Later when Lionel developed a six wheel truck for their Geeps some of those made their way to E60's.  After a run of FM's, Williams had some frames and running gear left over and mated them to some remaining E60's.

If the photo is clear enough you can see both four and six wheel trucks and one with the FM frame.  Because the width was wider the cab sits high on the FM frame.  Yours appears to have decals for the name and number.  Earliest production.IMG_4629.1

Ps..one of my 2 bestest favorite..my 1956/58 NH JET🚊AND MY 52 54 C& O NW2🚆153463994402452506856320180702_192833_HDR

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