I think Lou that there is an important lesson to be learnt here about the differences between the 'O' gauge fraternity and the more selective 'S' gauge crowd.
My perception is that the 'O' gauge people are quite happy to buy items that are non prototypical and fanciful with artwork that is basically aimed at collectors of novelty. I feel that these marketing techniques are not as widely acceptable for the 'S' arena.
For myself I would rather see items made that reflected the prototype as near as possible which means you can run trains that look as they should do or did.
As someone mentioned previously, if it is the Baldwin as the choice of power in UP livery and the UP didn't have any, then it isn't for me.
Going off at tangent here you can see how the Lionel influence of selling an 'O' passenger set is being forced upon the 'S' gauge community by only having three cars instead of four. Gilbert in the main always marketed most of the streamliner passenger sets with four cars.
Regards,
Neil
OK guys hear me out. i appreciare the feedback but you are missing the big picture here. We are trying to help Lionel re create a traditional S gauge market. Before these people can step up to the next level we need to rekindle that spark for flyer. The LCCA along with lionel are trying to bring American flyer back to many of those who remember it from their childhood. Until LIONEL and LCCA can re-establish the entry level flyer products WE the LCCA WILL NOT RISK using our members money for Flyer S scale. i have sat with lionel and there are items that have been discussed in S scale that you can't even imagine but without a basic base market how do we expect these people to get to the next level so lionel can justify their investment. Right now the flyer market isn't all taht big to justify constantly making new tooling. $700 to $900 locos with $80 plus freight cars scare the heck out of some folks. it scares them right out of the hobby!
LCCA is NOT ignoring the collector or rivet counters. FOR NOW We are targeting a completly different group of people.
many thanks
louie
