quote:LOL. I am very sure that anyone who might be subject to pay sales taxes would threaten that they would not get tables if they had to do so, just as much as someone might say they will go out of business if the minimum wage were raised.
Wow, you cannot back up your earlier statement, so the folks who say they will stay away are being disingenuous
I can assure you, I won't get a PA tax number, nor would I knowly sell my trains to a reseller who would. My NYS tax number is enough to deal with.
You are right--I cannot back up what any person threatens to do should they have to start keeping track of sales for tax purposes. But I seriously question self-serving statements like that from people who simply have a general aversion to taxes to begin with. What would anyone expect them to say? No one wants to pay taxes and people always complain about regulations and paperwork before they even examine how easy and virtually effortless it might be to report it. Now, I don't know what's involved in New York or California when it comes to reporting requirements, but the York event is not in those states--it is in Pennsylvania. Reporting sales from York twice a year on a Pa sales tax form is no big deal--and I speak from experience insofar as having had to do the paperwork on a quarterly basis for my incidental sales of books. I think people today are just sick and tired of government intrusion into their lives, and I can appreciate that as a general principle. But that is not a rationale to suggest that reporting requirements are so onerous when they really are not. Look, nobody wants to pay sales taxes--buyers, sellers, you, me, and probably everyone else. I don't want to pay income taxes either, but I realize that if I didn't as well as if others didn't, it might jeopardize the existence of this country which would not serve us individually. My interest in this thread is not to impose sales taxes or reporting requirements on people--it is to try to make the York event a means to increase membership in the hobby generally and membership in the TCA specifically by making the event more accessible to the general public. But people who have a good thing going for them in terms of avoiding sales taxes quite naturally have a self-interest in keeping things as they are. The question is whether one's personal selfish interest in that regard should trump the hobby's and the TCA's fight for survival in the future. Now, I have no quarrel with people who disagree that opening up the York event to the public will increase membership, even though that option has not been tried yet. But I do think an argument that is based on the onerous effect of tax reporting requirements for vendors and payment of sales tax by buyers is disingenuous. There are plenty of vendors out there who love the hobby and are not going to make a bi-annual reporting of sales detract from it. It is slightly inconvenient maybe, but the minimal paperwork is certainly not enough to end it all. Like I said before, some people have general notions about tax reporting requirements from speculation (like someone who suggested that one has to pay a fee to get a sales tax number, etc.) or even from actual experience in other jurisdictions, but have never really examined what PA requirements are like. Go on-line to the Pa Department of Revenue's website and see what the actual procedure is. If you still feel that those reporting requirements are a deal-breaker for you at York, then I suppose you could go elsewhere for your sales of merchandise or sell out your inventory to another person who is willing to fill out the PA sales tax form.
